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Eliot Whinterton-Harpe - 12 Mar 2007 02:10 GMT
I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
display in a museum in 100 million years time.

How should I achieve this?
Greg G. - 12 Mar 2007 02:18 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

You could infiltrate the mafia, then mention that you are an
undercover cop.

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Ymir - 12 Mar 2007 02:35 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Well, dying is a good place to start.

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Walter Bushell - 12 Mar 2007 04:25 GMT
> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> > display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> André

I'd rather achieve immortality by not dying.
Josh Hayes - 12 Mar 2007 06:56 GMT
Walter Bushell <proto@oanix.com> wrote in news:proto-BAE4A2.23253311032007@
032-325-625.area1.spcsdns.net:

>> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>> > display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'd rather achieve immortality by not dying.

I'm not worried about dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens.

-JAH

next quote, please
Perplexed in Peoria - 12 Mar 2007 08:16 GMT
> Walter Bushell <proto@oanix.com> wrote in news:proto-BAE4A2.23253311032007@
> 032-325-625.area1.spcsdns.net:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> next quote, please

How about this: "The reports of my fossilization have been greatly exaggerated".
Perplexed in Peoria - 12 Mar 2007 03:31 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Careful enbalming, followed by burial under a huge pile of rocks - that should
do it.  But make that pile of rocks look natural!  Otherwise you won't even
last 5000 years underground.
John Wilkins - 12 Mar 2007 03:55 GMT
> "Eliot Whinterton-Harpe" <null@ewh.void.tk> wrote in...
> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> do it.  But make that pile of rocks look natural!  Otherwise you won't even
> last 5000 years underground.

Find a good site for opalisation, and bury yourself.
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schnurrbart - 12 Mar 2007 04:37 GMT
> Find a good site for opalisation, and bury yourself.

What is "opalisation"?
John Wilkins - 12 Mar 2007 05:35 GMT
> > Find a good site for opalisation, and bury yourself.
>
> What is "opalisation"?

See here:

<http://crcleme.org.au/Pubs/Monographs/regolith2004/Pewkliang_et_al.pdf>

Basically it's the replacement of biological material with minerals, as
in any case of fossilisation, but it leads to the most beautiful
colours. A plesiosaur was found that had been opalised. Instructive
*and* beautiful...

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Martin Hutton - 12 Mar 2007 22:00 GMT
> > > Find a good site for opalisation, and bury yourself.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> colours. A plesiosaur was found that had been opalised. Instructive
> *and* beautiful...

IIRC The Luggage was opalised in "The Last Continent" and
subsequently discovered by a miner called Struth. Beautiful
*and* deadly...

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Josh Hayes - 12 Mar 2007 06:57 GMT
>> Find a good site for opalisation, and bury yourself.
>
> What is "opalisation"?

It's defined as "taking a perfectly useful automobile design and ruining it
utterly", as in "My mother had a really great car, but it suffered from
opalisation."

-JAH

Or, in the States, "opalization"
schnurrbart - 12 Mar 2007 04:30 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

The mummification idea is pretty good but you should carve
radioactivity symbols on your tomb.  Also, warnings about high levels
of radioactivity should be carved onto your tomb in as many languages
as possible so no one in the future will mess with your mausoleum.
Your tomb should be constructed from the strongest stone possible and
located in the most geologically inactive area possible (central
Nevada, maybe?).
schnurrbart - 12 Mar 2007 04:35 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

As an alternative to mummification, you could have your body put into
a vat of tree sap and you could be like those insects in Jurassic
Park.  Then future scientists could extract your DNA to create a
Quaternary Park exhibit!  I hope this helps.
Harry K - 12 Mar 2007 04:41 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Find a site that is collecting lots of sediment every year and get
buried there deeply.  Pray that the site is not on a tectonic plate
that is/will subduct.

Harry K
coaster - 12 Mar 2007 05:45 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Have an acrylic resin factory turn you into a human trophy.  You
should last for millions of years.  And I think you'll polish up
nicely.
Harry K - 12 Mar 2007 15:50 GMT
> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> > display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> should last for millions of years.  And I think you'll polish up
> nicely.

I am rather amazed at the answers in this thread.  The OP asks to be
"fossilized" and almost all the replies involve embalming or other
methods of preserving the body.  Embalming and fossilization are
totally different processes.

Harry K
Blazing.Laser@a.mail.sonic.net - 12 Mar 2007 17:49 GMT
>I am rather amazed at the answers in this thread.  The OP asks to be
>"fossilized" and almost all the replies involve embalming or other
>methods of preserving the body.  Embalming and fossilization are
>totally different processes.

I was going to say that.  Fossils are preserved in solid rock and take
millions of years.  Considering their improbability it's amazing any
exist at all.  I would think it would be almost impossible to create
one intentionally.
Old Grey Wolf - 12 Mar 2007 07:27 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

First, you have to die. . .
John Wilkins - 12 Mar 2007 07:55 GMT
> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> > display in a museum in 100 million years time.
> >
> > How should I achieve this?
>
> First, you have to die. . .

Mr Bond...
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"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."

Lucifer - 12 Mar 2007 11:47 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Bury yourself in soft, anaerobic mud. Do this just before you die, but
don't, whatever you do, sturggle.
Lin Liangtai - 12 Mar 2007 13:37 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Have your body embalmed (fixed with formalin)
and placed in a stone coffin buried as deep as possible.
Harry K - 12 Mar 2007 15:48 GMT
> > I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> > display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Have your body embalmed (fixed with formalin)
> and placed in a stone coffin buried as deep as possible.

Not in coal?

Harry K
Blazing.Laser@b.mail.sonic.net - 12 Mar 2007 17:52 GMT
>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
>How should I achieve this?

I think the real problem is that we don't -have- a million years.  The
way things are going I  think it's a dicey proposition that we'll be
around three or four more generations if we don't clean up our act.
nmp - 12 Mar 2007 22:29 GMT
Op Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:52:18 -0800, schreef Blazing.Laser:

>>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>>display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> way things are going I  think it's a dicey proposition that we'll be
> around three or four more generations if we don't clean up our act.

I think some of us in remote parts will make it, even after The Day the
Buttons Got Pushed, or were you alluding to some other kind of catastrophe?
Blazing.Laser@b.mail.sonic.net - 13 Mar 2007 04:07 GMT
>> I think the real problem is that we don't -have- a million years.  The
>> way things are going I  think it's a dicey proposition that we'll be
>> around three or four more generations if we don't clean up our act.
>
>I think some of us in remote parts will make it, even after The Day the
>Buttons Got Pushed, or were you alluding to some other kind of catastrophe?

I think they might not die right away, but eventually.  Think nuclear
Winter, worldwide fallout and contamination, etc. etc.  Like in 'On
the Beach'.
Mark Iredell - 12 Mar 2007 22:31 GMT
> >I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> >display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> way things are going I  think it's a dicey proposition that we'll be
> around three or four more generations if we don't clean up our act.

He didn't require a museum run by our descendants. It's more likely
that if 100 million years from now there are beings intelligent enough
to run a museum, then they would be descendants of today's penguins.
Greg G. - 12 Mar 2007 23:17 GMT
> Blazing.La...@b.mail.sonic.net wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> that if 100 million years from now there are beings intelligent enough
> to run a museum, then they would be descendants of today's penguins.

Penguins are the best curators.

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For it is the doom of men that they forget.
--Merlin
Walter Bushell - 13 Mar 2007 03:00 GMT
> > Blazing.La...@b.mail.sonic.net wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> For it is the doom of men that they forget.
>  --Merlin

Ducks as in "Howard, the Duck".
schnurrbart - 13 Mar 2007 00:27 GMT
> He didn't require a museum run by our descendants. It's more likely
> that if 100 million years from now there are beings intelligent enough
> to run a museum, then they would be descendants of today's penguins.

Or land squids like in that Discovery Channel special.
Mark Isaak - 12 Mar 2007 23:07 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Be buried on the Moon.

For best effect, have a titanium plaque buried with you, showing an
arbitrary star chart and some completely meaningless scribbles that look
sort of like writing.  When you're found, people will be talking about
you for centuries.

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Blazing.Laser@b.mail.sonic.net - 13 Mar 2007 04:09 GMT
>> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>sort of like writing.  When you're found, people will be talking about
>you for centuries.

I think that's the best idea so far!  It's not quite the same as
becoming fossilized, though.
Bob C - 12 Mar 2007 23:19 GMT
>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on display
>in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Perhaps our ancient ancestors felt this way too.  I recall a cartoon from
many years ago (Sid Harris, maybe?)  Well, two cavemen are discussing this,
and one remarks, " My greatest ambition is to become part of the fossil
record."

Bob C
Cemtech - 13 Mar 2007 04:22 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

Jump into a tar pit.  There's one in L.A. =)
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textuur@gmail.com - 14 Mar 2007 18:30 GMT
> In article <et299g$h1...@aioe.org>, n...@ewh.void.tk says...
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Amish Chair of Electrical Engineering
> University of Ediacara   "A fine tradition since 530,000,000 BC"

You beat me to it. Anaerobic mud would work too,
I guess, but this would be easier.

Regards,

Karel
Cemtech - 17 Mar 2007 02:32 GMT
> > In article <et299g$h1...@aioe.org>, n...@ewh.void.tk says...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> You beat me to it. Anaerobic mud would work too,
> I guess, but this would be easier.

Hehe, well I did live near L.A.  The stuff seeps up in the general area.  
I remember seeing a small crack near their parking lot, with a small
amount coming up.  Being a kid, I decided to stick my finger in it.  
That stuff gets everywhere and doesn't come off easy. =(

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William Wingstedt - 13 Mar 2007 13:50 GMT
>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
>How should I achieve this?

Too late. God fossilized things 6,000 years ago to make the planet
appear to be old. I don't think he's going there again...
Ye Old One - 13 Mar 2007 15:05 GMT
>>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
>>display in a museum in 100 million years time.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Too late. God fossilized things 6,000 years ago to make the planet
>appear to be old. I don't think he's going there again...

The god you talk of was invented by man about 3,000 years ago, though
many of his attributes were stolen from earlier gods.

Fossils were formed at various times in the last 4,000,000,000 years.
Long before this god was invented by primitive men to explain things
that we have now come to understand by science.

Of course, new fossils are being formed even now. Maybe, a few million
years form now someone will dig up a creationist and wonder "were they
intelligent?" Sadly, they will never know just how wrong they will be
if they answer "yes".

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George - 14 Mar 2007 17:02 GMT
>I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on display
>in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

How do you know that some future amateur fossil hunter won't just chisel
past you to get to the fossil below?  :-)

George
Lorentz - 29 Mar 2007 03:36 GMT
> I want to be fossilized when I die, and ideally dug up and put on
> display in a museum in 100 million years time.
>
> How should I achieve this?

  This may be painful. Here are some ideas that you should consider
carefully. You only get to try once.
      You may try the volcano method. Find one of those ashy type
volcanoes. The type that spits out huge quantities of ash and poison
gases. Buy a home there and wait. I recommend an area in the dessert
which is also near a volcano. When an eruption happens, go outside and
allow yourself to be buried.
    Some luck is unavoidable in this technique.  The bodies in those
casts in Pompey decayed away in less than 2000 years. Seeping water
will do that. That is why I recommended a dessert area. However, many
bones from buried ash buried animals have been petrified. I don't know
exactly the conditions that encourage petrification. You may do better
if after being buried in the ash, some molten lava covers the ash. The
ash would then preserve you from being dissolved in the ash. The
frozen lava will protect your body from the ravages of water. If you
are really lucky, some of your soft parts will be baked into the ash
so they can admired your hair, fingernails, and even skin patterns.
       Bury yourself in an area where petrification occassion occurs.
I saw some partially petrified horse and camel bones in southern New
Mexico, about 25 miles west of  Las Cruces. They were only 10-15 KY
old. However, the climate hadn't changed very much since then.
Petrification is a good first step. So I recommend that in your will
you state that you want to be buried, without a casket, in that area.
The original animals had drowned and buried in one of those flash
floods that still occassionally sweep the area.
   Sticky stuff can be helpful. Jumping into an asphalt pit will
ensure your bones will be preserved for at least 40 KY. However, I
take it that you are looking for a longer stay. Someone suggested tree
sap and amber. That is a very good method, I recommend it.
      I also recommend jumping into a highly mineralized hot spring.
I read a story about a newspaper found in a hot spring which had been
petrified in less than 100 years. Unfortunately, I don't have any
references as to where it is. Drowning in that spring sounds like a
really good idea. Also recommended is deep sea burial, where the sea
is one of those extremely salty ones like the Dead Sea.
 
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