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Information on the pre-historic monster crow - any mammal's worst genetic nightmare.

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Radium - 23 Jul 2007 03:02 GMT
Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up before but I just can't get over
it. I apologize profusely to those who might be annoyed. However,
there is a difference in this post and the last post on this topic
about ancient crows.

The following is a description of the monster crow [an extinct species
of crows]:

The monster crow is a mega-winged, mini-bodied crow. It is the most
terrifying creature on the earth. Its body is 1,000 times smaller than
that of the average infant crow. Yet its wings [including their
feathers and the number of feathers] are 1,000 times bigger than that
of the average adult crow. Now, the wings of the monster crow maybe a
1,000 times bigger than today's average adult crow. However, the flesh
that is present in these monster wings is a 1,000 times thinner than
the flesh present in the wings of today' average juvenile crow.

Unlike most crows - which are black-colored - the monster crow is
white colored. It is pure white. Also, unlike today's crows, the
monster crow does not contain any form of any adipose tissue at all.

In addition, the monster crow does not have a beak or claws. It also
does not make the 'caacaa' sound of most crows. In fact, the monster
crow does not vocalize at all.

The only sounds made by the monster crow are the sounds generated by
its wings as it flies through their [without flapping its wings].

The shape of the monster crow is similar to that of regular crows.
However, the monster crow's flight speed is extremely slow -- around
1,000 times slower than the average juvenile crow of today.

The monster crow also rarely - if ever - flaps its wings. Whenever in
flight, the monster crow keeps its wings completely spread-out and
pointed slightly -- yet noticeably -- upward [rarely, if ever
downward].

/ \ is downward

\ / is upward.

Think of the edges of the above slashes as the wings.

The wings are also pointed forward and not at all backward. Most
airplanes have their wings pointed backward.

\
/

The above two slashes represent backward-pointed wings.

The following two slashes represent forward-pointed wings:

/
\

This monster crow is terrifying because it will accidentally tickle
you with its spread-out wings if you are in its environment. This
monster crow does not mean to scare you but it has little control over
its flight.

With its wings spread out, it will slowly and softy brush against your
skin as it flies close to you. This crow does not want to tickle you
but since it has great difficult in controlling its movement, you'll
definitely be tickled if you are close to it.

The tickling sensation is extremely terrifying and disgusting.

The psychological trauma is so intense that it affects the genes of
all mammals.

All mammals fear the monster crow even without being exposed to it.
This is because their remote ancestors [millions of years ago] were
touched by the tickly wings of the monster crow.

Thankfully the monster crow is now extinct. The extinction was likely
due to geographical and climatic changes.

All mammals have an innate fear of the monster crow due to genetic
factors that evolved millions of years ago. It's only natural.

To all:

I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.

I would like to give you some information about my disability. The
reason I am posting this message about Asperger's is to help avoid any
potential misunderstandings [though it's probably too late].

I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). AS is a
neurological condition that causes significant impairment in social
interactions. People with AS see the world differently and this can
often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking. They
have difficulty in reading body language, and interpreting subtle
cues. In my situation, I have significant difficulty with natural
conversation, reading social cues, and maintaining eye contact. This
can lead to a great deal of misunderstanding about my intent or my
behavior. For example, I may not always know what to say in social
situations, so I may look away or may not say anything. I also may not
always respond quickly when asked direct questions, but if given time
I am able express my ideas.

On Usenet, the text-equivalent of my disability is probably noticed. I
do apologize profusely, for any inconvenience it causes.

Thank you very much in advance for your understanding, cooperation,
and assistance.

Regards,

Radium
Don Stockbauer - 23 Jul 2007 03:56 GMT
> Hi:
>
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>
> Radium

Thanks for sharing.

Myself, I suffer from vulgar handwriting.

Do you know the way to San Jose?????
Mike Henry - 23 Jul 2007 04:00 GMT
> Hi:
>
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>
> Radium

I have been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder which also has a lot
of downsides.

This monster crow is a figment of your imagination.

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Geo. Michael Henry
"Coyote is always waiting and he is always hungry"

Radium - 23 Jul 2007 05:03 GMT
> This monster crow is a figment of your imagination.

I'm afraid not.
Lorentz - 24 Jul 2007 21:56 GMT
> I have been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder which also has a lot
> of downsides.
>
> This monster crow is a figment of your imagination.

   Gee. You have the schizoaffective disorder which is supposed to
cause delusional and hallucinatory fantasies. Radium has Asperger's
syndrome, which is supposed to generate overly logical thinking.
However, he is coming up with the "monster crow" delusion and you are
logically refuting it. What happened?
Mike Henry - 25 Jul 2007 02:30 GMT
>> I have been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder which also has a lot
>> of downsides.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> However, he is coming up with the "monster crow" delusion and you are
> logically refuting it. What happened?

    First, master's degree in physics.
    Second, service in VietNam
    Third, delusional and hallucinatory fantasies
    Fourth, 20+ years of treatment
    Fifth, stabilization by a combination of Thorazine, Cogentin , and Ativan.
    Present, working as a mental health councilor and serving a second term
as Commander, Baker-Holmes Post #3722 of the Veterans of Foreign Wars,
Belleville, Kansas.
    Maybe I'll write a book sometime before I die.

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Geo. Michael Henry
"Coyote is always waiting and he is always hungry"

darwinist - 23 Jul 2007 06:34 GMT
> Hi:
>
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> that is present in these monster wings is a 1,000 times thinner than
> the flesh present in the wings of today' average juvenile crow.

What evidence is there of a prehistoric monster crow with the
characteristics you describe?

> Unlike most crows - which are black-colored - the monster crow is
> white colored. It is pure white. Also, unlike today's crows, the
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>
> Radium
Immortalist - 23 Jul 2007 19:02 GMT
> Hi:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> All mammals have an innate fear of the monster crow due to genetic
> factors that evolved millions of years ago. It's only natural.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.paleontology/msg/a07574ed1870b255

There is some bird, I can't remember, which is born with pre-wired
instincts for responding to certain shaped shadows moving in only a
particular direction. The bird knows instinctually what is the front
and back in relation to the direction of movement of the front and
back.

Oh ya, here it is in me database

Dutch zoologist Tinbergen used a flock of newly hatched baby turkeys,
not more than a few days old. They were contained in a circular pen,
about 20 feet in diameter, with the walls not more than a foot in
height. At the center of this circular pen, was a vertical pole 3
meters in height, with a horizontal arm extending out from the top of
the central pole so that the arm could sweep horizontally over the pen
in a rotary motion. Then a wooden cross was attached to the end of the
arm.

1. The little chicks were peacefully feeding in the pen. When the arm
with the cross would slowly move in one_direction, the little chicks
would run for cover.

2. When the same_cross would move in the opposite direction, the birds
would ignore it.

If the cross moved in the direction of its longer arm, the little
chicks, completely undisturbed, would go on pecking at their food. If
the cross would move in the direction of it's shorter arm, they would
immediately scream with fright and run for cover in a hutch in the
center of the pen.

Therefore Tinbergen (1951) showed that;

1. When young turkeys see a silhouette model pulled in the direction
that makes it look like a hawk, they were terrified and ran for
cover.

2. However, when it was pulled in the other direction, which makes it
look like a goose, they were nonchalant (i.e., didn't react).

Inborn in those little chicks' brain was the instinctive recognition
of the hawk as its natural enemy, instinctive fear and instinctive
reaction to flee and take cover. Without any training, without any
conscious thought processes, a few days old chicks were able to
recognize a clear and present danger - the hawk - even though it was
only a silhouette model of their enemy passing over their heads.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/hvd_sexdrive_1.htm

http://www.google.com/searchq=tinbergen+hawk+goose+direction+of+movement
Lorentz - 24 Jul 2007 22:26 GMT
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up before but I just can't get over
> it. I apologize profusely to those who might be annoyed. However,
> there is a difference in this post and the last post on this topic
> about ancient crows.
    I know you are joking, and you are obsessing. I have Asperger's
myself so I know what you are going through. You are bothered by a
logical contradiction so you need to repeat a joke as a means of
"defusing it." This probably won't stop until one of us actually
resolves the logical contradiction. However, your joke is incomplete
which sets my insanity off.

       Why should being tickled with big feathers cause fear
thousands of generations later? There is no selection process
associated with being tickled. Therefore, there is no fear specific to
ravens that tickle. There is no empirical evidence for the existence
of such an specific fear. What is the logical contradiction that is
bothering you?
Don Stockbauer - 25 Jul 2007 05:23 GMT
> On Jul 22, 10:02 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi:
>
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> of such an specific fear. What is the logical contradiction that is
> bothering you?

The nice thing about the Global Brain is the fact that people with
horrible mental problems just blend into it seamlessly, add a bit of
spice to the worldwide brew, and need not be kept in dungeons chained
to the walls with a single drain in the middle of the floor.  You're
valuable for your diversity!  God (er, I mean The Universe) blesses
you.
pete - 26 Jul 2007 01:20 GMT

> Thankfully the monster crow is now extinct. The extinction was likely
> due to geographical and climatic changes.

No, it was the Crow Magnum.

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pete

spiznet - 30 Jul 2007 13:05 GMT
> > Thankfully the monster crow is now extinct. The extinction was likely
> > due to geographical and climatic changes.
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> --
> pete

Or a Neander Aven
Aardvark J. Bandersnatch, BA, MA, BLT, PhD, MYOB, STFU - 28 Jul 2007 07:57 GMT
> Hi:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that is present in these monster wings is a 1,000 times thinner than
> the flesh present in the wings of today' average juvenile crow.

Any one of which makes this bird a physical (pun intended) impossibility. Do
the math.

Your for Hallucinations,

AJB.
William Wingstedt - 30 Jul 2007 19:11 GMT
>> Hi:
>>
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>
>AJB.

The only way it makes sense is to use the European convention of using
a comma as a decimal point, in which case the prehistoric monster crow
is the exact same size and the present day crow, accurate to 3 decimal
places.
 
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