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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / February 2005



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simonq - 21 Feb 2005 09:31 GMT
I find one of the most fundamental aspects of physics difficult to
understand: charge. It drives me insane.

Does anyone have an explanation to what a charge actually is? Are
forces being emitted from the particle that interact with another
particle in a specific way?

Furthermore, has anyone satisfactorily visualised a charge? How can a
fundamental particle have a charge? Why do different quarks have
different charges?

God it's frustrating.
Y.Porat - 22 Feb 2005 03:55 GMT
see my little site :
http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

you will see an 'Atomic nucleus'
and at the end you will see how a circlon
is expalaining *any* attraction force
and at the same time  can be
'a paerticle builder'
it is nicely substanciated and can even do
unprecedented predictions.

Y.Porat
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PD - 22 Feb 2005 17:24 GMT
> I find one of the most fundamental aspects of physics difficult to
> understand: charge. It drives me insane.
>
> Does anyone have an explanation to what a charge actually is? Are
> forces being emitted from the particle that interact with another
> particle in a specific way?

Yes, exactly, through the exchange of bosons appropriate to that
interaction. The charge tells you the strength of the coupling to the
boson. I would even venture to say that this strength tells you roughly
how *often* the boson is emitted or absorbed by the particles.

> Furthermore, has anyone satisfactorily visualised a charge? How can a
> fundamental particle have a charge? Why do different quarks have
> different charges?

Charge is not a thing. It is a property, like "shiny" or "blue".

No one knows *why* quarks have different charges, only that they do.
What's more mysterious is why quarks have different masses, especially
the top quark which is quite a bit heavier than the others.
Supersymmetry (an untested theory) may provide the answer to that
question.

> God it's frustrating.

Don't confuse interesting with frustrating, or even confounding with
frustrating.

PD
Y.Porat - 23 Feb 2005 04:48 GMT
Bosons emmited and absorbed??

but waht(you see- i am dislectic ...) are those Bosons
and what is their way of movement??
it is certainly not a movement in a stright line!
no physical entity that moves that way
can produce any attraction force
and no particle without mass either
is able of doing any attraction force.

in short - see my little site
quoted in my last post especially
the appendix.
all the best
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
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PD - 23 Feb 2005 16:11 GMT
> Bosons emmited and absorbed??
>
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> and no particle without mass either
> is able of doing any attraction force.

This is a common misunderstanding, and it stems from thinking of the
exchange of bosons as the exchange of little hard balls.

PD

> in short - see my little site
> quoted in my last post especially
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> Y.Porat
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Y.Porat - 24 Feb 2005 10:46 GMT
i a mvery lucky with that misunderstanding of mine!!
ok not little balls then what are they??
are they mesengers that are bigger than their 'mother'??!!
btw PD
if you what to see more about my misunderstandings
have alook to at my little site:
http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
see for instance the unsuported idea about the Circlon
a very basic particle that move naturally in a closed circle
it is in the appendix
if you tell me thast your bosons move in a curved circle
then i start to 'buy ' your' merchandise

btw if you accept my idea then the mediators messengers(even 'Bosons')
do not have to have such a huge mass since the way they are doing
in action is not the stright short line between acted particles
but a much longer way - all around
ie it is as if the distance between mediated particles is much longer
!!
how about that (occured to me just now .......)
and that migh tbe done by much lighter meseengers
all the best
Y.Porat
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