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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / April 2005



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About the physical meaning of second qautization

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Kevin Blake - 29 Apr 2005 10:00 GMT
Unfornunately the physical meaning of the second quatization in the
literature stays a little obscured (at least) for me.
As far as I understand (by analogy with quantum mechanics - when one
quantizes the classical variables by replacing them with operators on
e receives a discrete spectrum of them) - so I think that when
quantizing a field one should receive a discrete spectrum of functions
(each coresponding to N particles).

1.Does this mean there are simply no functions in between N and N-1
functions?

Then these functions form the Fock space - which is Hilbert vector
space. This means that there are linear combinations of N-function and
N-1 -function etc.

2.What is the physical mening of this? What is the meaning of having
N-particles with probability x and N-1 particles with probability 1-x
(adding to 1)? As far as I know the energy is always conserved - than
there must always be a 1 probability for a fixed number of particles
(hwN=E).
Chris Dams - 29 Apr 2005 10:14 GMT
Dear Kevin,

>2.What is the physical mening of this? What is the meaning of having
>N-particles with probability x and N-1 particles with probability 1-x
>(adding to 1)? As far as I know the energy is always conserved - than
>there must always be a 1 probability for a fixed number of particles
>(hwN=E).

This happens in high energy scattering experiments. Probability
distributions over possible final states includes final states with
different numbers of particles. This is explained by considering these
final states as being superpositions of states with different numbers of
particles. It is true that the total energy of the resulting particles
must be equal to the energy of colliding particles. Als the energy of
such a particle is given by sqrt(m^2+|vec p|^2) it takes values in a
continuum and there is the possibility that (say) two momenta yield the
same total energy as (say) three momenta.

Best wishes,
Chris
Chris - 29 Apr 2005 11:21 GMT
> Unfornunately the physical meaning of the second quatization in the
> literature stays a little obscured (at least) for me.

Hi,

I undertand "second quantisation" as introduced my Sommerfield's
modification of the Bohr atom by introducing elliptical orbits.  This allows
another degree of freedom and so a second quantum number.

With shroedinger and his wave mechanics we have three dimensions and that
introduces additional degrees of freedom and thus more quantum numbers.

In an atom there are s,p,d ... f.... orbitals these need several quantum
numbers to give their energy.
René Meyer - 30 Apr 2005 10:13 GMT
No thats first quantization. Second quantization is actually only first
quantization in the "Besetzungszahldarstellung" (I think its occupation
number picture in English).

René
 
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