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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / July 2005Introducing Chromotron, the leptoquark!
Here's something to think about. Let us consider that there is a fundamental particle called the chromotron, which comes in 3 varieties. A positive chromotron has a strong charge of +1, +2, or +3, and an electric charge of -1. A neutral chromotron has a strong charge of 0 and an electric charge of 0. A negative chromotron has a strong charge of -1, -2, or -3, and an electric charge of +1. The neutral chromotron is the neutrino. A down quark consists of a positive chromotron and 2 neutrinos, and has an electric charge of -1. The strong charge of a down quark is: 1=1, 2=2, or 3=3 An up quark is a combination of 2 negative chromotrons and 1 neutrino, and has an electric charge of +2. The strong charge of an up quark is: -1 + -2 + 6 = 3, -1 + -3 + 6 = 2, or -2 + -3 + 6 = 1 An electron is a combination of 3 positive chromotrons. The strong charge of an electron is: 1 + 2 + 3 = 6 In this system, A proton consists of 4 negative chromotrons, 4 neutrinos and 1 positive chromotron. A neutron consists of 2 negative chromotrons, 5 neutrinos and 2 positive chromotrons. A hydrogen atom consists of 4 negative chromotrons, 4 neutrinos and 4 positive chromotrons. Could such a fundamental particle exist in this way? Can you add the strong charge together in the way I did? Could a neutrino bond with a chromotron? Can particles pulsate? Could you improve this system? > Here's something to think about. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > charge of an electron is: > 1 + 2 + 3 = 6 Small problem. Electrons do not participate in the strong interaction and therefore their strong charge must be zero. PD > In this system, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Can particles pulsate? > Could you improve this system? Why should the electron participate in the strong interaction? The 3 chromotrons of the electron would already be forming a neutral colour state, just like the proton, but in the case of the electron there would be 3 chromotrons, while the proton would have 9 chromotrons. > Why should the electron participate in the strong interaction? > > The 3 chromotrons of the electron would already be forming a neutral > colour state, just like the proton, but in the case of the electron > there would be 3 chromotrons, while the proton would have 9 chromotrons. Being in a color *singlet* state (like mesons and hadrons are) does not mean that protons do not participate in the strong interaction. On the contrary, they certainly do. That's why the nucleus is the size that it is. On the other hand, electrons do not participate in the strong interaction. Nothing in your model explains why protons do and electrons do not. PD > > Why should the electron participate in the strong interaction? > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > PD An electron is a colour neutral triplet. A proton is a colour neutral triplet and a colour neutral doublet. A neutron is 2 colour neutral doublets. Since we know neutrons are unstable, colour neutral doublets would be less stable than colour neutral triplets. Colour neutral doublets are unstable due to the fact that they consist of matter-antimatter pairs and undergo annihilation. Colour neutral triplets are likely to be stable, since they are composed entirely of either matter or anti-matter. When nucleons bond, the chromotrons reorganise into sets of colour neutral doublets and triplets, for example, In a deuteron, the chromotrons of the proton and neutron would be reorganised to form 3 colour neutral triplets. Since the chromotrons in an electron are already in a colour neutral triplet, they do not participate in this reorganisation. Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. You are using the word singlet or doublet or triplet differently than physicists do, and you need to define your terms. A doublet in the usual formulation does not mean a pair of bound objects. PD > > > Why should the electron participate in the strong interaction? > > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the > reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. > You are using the word singlet or doublet or triplet differently than > physicists do, and you need to define your terms. A doublet in the > usual formulation does not mean a pair of bound objects. I am using the term doublet to refer to a pair of chromotrons, while the word triplet refers to a trio of chromotrons. > PD > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the > > reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. Then you misunderstood my earlier post. Protons (as well as all known hadrons) are color singlet states, in the quantum mechanical sense of the word. They are made of quarks (color triplets) and gluons (color octet states) regardless. Suggest you look up those terms in a QM text before we resume discussion. PD > > You are using the word singlet or doublet or triplet differently than > > physicists do, and you need to define your terms. A doublet in the [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > > Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the > > > reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. Remember that i'm talking about a hypothetical particle that both leptons and quarks are made from. A chromotron is a colour singlet. A down quark consists of a chromotron and 2 neutrinos, and is a colour singlet. An up quark consists of 2 chromotrons and a neutrino, and is a colour singlet. An electron consists of 3 chromotrons, and is a colour triplet. A proton consists of 5 chromotrons and 4 neutrinos, and is a colour triplet formed from 3 colour singlets. I agree that hadrons are color singlet states, and I am suggesting that leptons are as well. Only particles consisting of a colour triplet are stable > Then you misunderstood my earlier post. Protons (as well as all known > hadrons) are color singlet states, in the quantum mechanical sense of [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > > > Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the > > > > reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. A model that imagines that leptons and quarks are made of smaller particles (prions sometimes called) is not a new model, nor is a leptoquark model which allows (and in fact predicts) lepton-quark transitions. You still don't know what a color singlet is. If an electron were a color triplet, then it would interact via the strong interaction. Color is the "charge" for QCD. There is absolutely no experimental evidence that electrons participate in the strong interaction, and in fact there is rather stringent experimental evidence that it does not. PD > Remember that i'm talking about a hypothetical particle that both > leptons and quarks are made from. [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > Therefore, under this model, the strong interaction is the > > > > > reorganisation of chromotrons into a more stable formation. > A model that imagines that leptons and quarks are made of smaller > particles (prions sometimes called) is not a new model, nor is a > leptoquark model which allows (and in fact predicts) lepton-quark > transitions. Thanks for letting me know about preons, I will check out them out. > You still don't know what a color singlet is. Didn't we establish that I was using the term colour singlet to refer to a particle with a single colour charge? > If an electron were a color triplet, then it would interact via the > strong interaction. Color is the "charge" for QCD. There is absolutely > no experimental evidence that electrons participate in the strong > interaction, and in fact there is rather stringent experimental > evidence that it does not. The 3 chromotrons(rgb) that compose the electron interact strongly with each other within the electron. A proton is composed of 4 anti-chromotrons and a chromotron, and since an up quark is composed of 2 anti-chromotrons, and 2 anti-colour charges make 1 colour charge, then the proton can be said to be composed of a triplet, when it would really be composed of a triplet and a doublet. A neutron would consist of 2 doublets. It is these doublets which would be resposible for the strong interaction between nucleons, and since the electron has only a triplet, it does not strongly interact with other particles. > > A model that imagines that leptons and quarks are made of smaller > > particles (prions sometimes called) is not a new model, nor is a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Didn't we establish that I was using the term colour singlet to refer > to a particle with a single colour charge? That's *your* definition of singlet, fine. That's not the usual definition of singlet, doublet, triplet, in quantum mechanics. > > If an electron were a color triplet, then it would interact via the > > strong interaction. Color is the "charge" for QCD. There is absolutely [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The 3 chromotrons(rgb) that compose the electron interact strongly with > each other within the electron. Here's the part you're missing. Protons consist of strongly interacting quarks and gluons which have color charge. Even though protons themselves are color-neutral, they exhibit strong interactions with other protons and with neutrons because some of this strong interaction "leaks out" of the proton (or neutron). More fundamentally, in high-energy proton-proton interactions, we see evidence for more direct interaction between the quarks and gluons of one proton with the quarks and gluons of the other proton. The same thing is true for the electromagnetic interaction. Protons and electrons both have electromagnetic charge and it's the electromagnetic interaction that binds them together as an atom. But even though the atom is electrically neutral, some of this electromagnetic interaction "leaks out" of the atom to form molecular interactions which are fundamentally electromagnetic. Thus, if an electron had any components that were strongly interacting (having color charge), then we would be able to see evidence of strong interaction of electrons at some energy scale. There is no such evidence. At all. It is *extremely* unlikely that the electron or any component of an electron exhibits color charge in any form. PD > A proton is composed of 4 anti-chromotrons and a chromotron, and since > an up quark is composed of 2 anti-chromotrons, and 2 anti-colour [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > interaction between nucleons, and since the electron has only a > triplet, it does not strongly interact with other particles. |
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