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who is 'Auty'  ??!!

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Y.Porat - 31 Aug 2005 07:13 GMT
We meet lately a strange agressive nagging creature
that calls itself
Auty'

there is no   real name no clear country or institute identity!!

which is a good starting sign of dishonesty and lack of  integrity.

ie mainly personal politics motiveted
and not *science motivated*

can someone take of  the mask from  that crookish creature??
including what country or institute he/she  belongs ??

imho such a reveal will make this ng something more  valuable
and respectable .

TIA
Y.Porat
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Autymn D. C. - 31 Aug 2005 09:48 GMT
Auty is one of your projected delusions, spawned from your own failure
as a contributing member to these newsgroups.
Y.Porat - 31 Aug 2005 10:12 GMT
yes  a very nice self estimate

does your woman  think the same  (:-)

lets hear other opinions

Y.P
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Y.Porat - 01 Sep 2005 07:36 GMT
Carlos wrote :

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> can someone of the members here
> reveal
> from which country  Auty  is ??

Not his "country of origin" but there is a high probability that Auty
is posting from Stockton, CA, US (since his Posting Host seems to be
located there).

(Since he posts directly with Goggle Groups, his  NNTP-Posting-Host
appears in the heading of the "Original Message" option. It is
69.108.172.162   Then if you go to:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
and input that IP number you get the location information).

end of quote

than you Carlos
let anyone know who is Autmn
yet that is only partial knowledge

and still the rest has to be found
IE
what   is that 'personality to what organization it belongs

and more important
what is the real  real motivations of that creature
and why hiding his real identity?
---------------------

TIA
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat - 01 Sep 2005 07:42 GMT
now
the 'get location'
does not work on my computer
can someone get it??

TIA
Y.Porat
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Josie Margolis - 01 Sep 2005 17:27 GMT
I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She signs herself as
"Aut".  She thinks that she's highly intelligent just because she had
early experiences winning spelling bees.  She can throw around
scientific jargon glibly, but many of her posts are communication
failures in the sense that other people often can't understand what
she's saying.  She considers this communication failure to be the fault
of the reader, but of course the fault is in the writing, which tends
to include incomplete sentences, question fragments such as "Why?" or
"How?" in an ambiguous context, pronouns with unclear references, and
not giving enough background information to let other people know what
she's talking about.

When she's angry she tosses about unimaginative name-calling like a
twelve years old, but I think she's probably in her twenties, merely
too unskilled to come up with anything better to say.

She has a serious misunderstanding of the scientific method, the
academic process, and the general human endeavor to seek the truth. She
sees the world in a distorted black and white "I'm right -- You're a
retard" that just doesn't fit the evidence.  Even Wikipedia won't put
up with her atrocious behavior and lack of respect for opinions that
differ from her own.

She has no qualms about expressing her vulgar personal prejudices
against Jews, homosexuals, people from other countries, and people from
other parts of her own country.  Unfortunately she's also an outspoken
atheist who gives a bad name to all of the decent atheists out there.
She makes me ashamed to be a female American.

No doubt her reply will be that she hates us and wants us to "stop
making things up".  But there isn't any need to "make things up" since
she condemns herself with her own posts.

Hee spelling corrections are merely annoying.  Apparently she doesn't
believe in using "ph", an eccentricity that might be considered
charming in less obnoxious person.

> now
> the 'get location'
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------
Josie Margolis - 01 Sep 2005 17:34 GMT
I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She signs herself as
"Aut".  She thinks that she's highly intelligent just because she had
early experiences winning spelling bees.  She can throw around
scientific jargon glibly, but many of her posts are communication
failures in the sense that other people often can't understand what
she's saying.  She considers this communication failure to be the fault
of the reader, but of course the fault is in the writing, which tends
to include incomplete sentences, question fragments such as "Why?" or
"How?" in an ambiguous context, pronouns with unclear references, and
not giving enough background information to let other people know what
she's talking about.

When she's angry she tosses about unimaginative name-calling like a
twelve year old, but I think she's probably in her twenties, merely too
unskilled to come up with anything better to say.

She has a serious misunderstanding of the scientific method, the
academic process, and the general human endeavor to seek the truth. She
sees the world in a distorted black and white "I'm right -- You're a
retard" that just doesn't fit the evidence.  Even Wikipedia won't put
up with her atrocious behavior and lack of respect for opinions that
differ from her own.

She has no qualms about expressing her vulgar personal prejudices
against Jews, homosexuals, people from other countries, and people from
other parts of her own country.  Unfortunately she's also an outspoken
atheist who gives a bad name to all of the decent atheists out there.
She makes me ashamed to be a female American.

No doubt her reply will be that she hates us and wants us to "stop
making things up".  But there isn't any need to "make things up" since
she condemns herself with her own posts.

Hee spelling corrections are merely annoying.  Apparently she doesn't
believe in using "ph", an eccentricity that might be considered
charming in less obnoxious person.

> now
> the 'get location'
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors - 01 Sep 2005 17:53 GMT
> I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
> gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She signs herself as
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> believe in using "ph", an eccentricity that might be considered
> charming in less obnoxious person.

IAWTP.

I suspect she's in her late twenties, even though she acts in a
profoundly immature manner, and that she derives sexual pleasure from
pointing out typos (and from nothing else, I'd wager).

Here she gets banned from a forum for being such a pain in the a.s:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/transparentscreens/discuss/23737/

It's kinda funny, IMO. lol.

--
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
Josie Margolis - 01 Sep 2005 18:39 GMT
Sexual pleasure from pointing out typos?  A questionable hypothesis I
think, but then again maybe I've been doing it incorrectly all these
years.  Ego and boredom probably present a simpler explanation.

> > I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
> > gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She signs herself as
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> --
> http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors - 01 Sep 2005 19:02 GMT
> Sexual pleasure from pointing out typos?  A questionable hypothesis I
> think, but then again maybe I've been doing it incorrectly all these
> years.  Ego and boredom probably present a simpler explanation.

It's just a theory, but I posit that she has a typo-correction-fetish,
and has become very adept at posting said corrections using only one
hand.

--
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
Y.Porat - 01 Sep 2005 18:02 GMT
Hi Josi!!
if you are a woman you saved the Honor of women!!

i very nice character analysis!!
now lets hear Auty how she responds to all those accusations
that seems to be very justified.

it didnt took me too long to realize with whom i am dealing.
now the most annoying part of it is her vast participation in any
thread
there is a saying in our place:

'what is worse than a fool'??
answer -  a diligent fool !!!'
now about her hatred for the 'strangers' i noticed it clearly!!

there fore i used not too happily the word   Nazi.
i felt it....
IE the unconditional irrational hatred.
IE intellectual integrity is not in her dirt
any way  i am glad that we took of the mask of her face
so anyone can know with whom we are dealing in this serious ng
IE
there is no room for such a behavior

for instance i indicated that while the price of oil is  70 $  and up
wards
it is lack of intelligence to deal with spelling in this ng!!
etc etc etc .

so thanks Josie

and ATB
Y.Porat
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Autymn D. C. - 02 Sep 2005 01:45 GMT
Shitheaded Porat:
didnt took -> didn't take

Josie: You can't prove a damned thing you said.  You can't tell the
difference between a sentence and an interjection.  You can't answer
where I said that I was a third the age of some people here; or that I
used to battle religious racists including Christian Identity cultists,
who /did/ attack Jews without reason; or where all of my namecalling is
accurate and descriptive given that the other party can't write without
being a liar.  Nor do you give a damn about linguistic accuracy, that
you think corruptions like "ph" is acceptable.  Nor do you about
scientific accuracy, that you might defend the mistakes the
establishment has made, whose page-long list of grievances I
conveniently posted herebelow:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/message/17865.  You are
nothing but a coward-supporting liar like Porat.

-Aut
Y.Porat - 02 Sep 2005 06:22 GMT
OK from now on i will know that i am
a coward and a lier

now about the little pisser Aut

you are a proved lier
in your latest posts you said that you are
third the age of many posters here

anyone can follow it and realize

so you even suffer form  lack of memory
or selective memory

not to mention your lies and lack of intelligence about the
'Gold - Platinum' process

that is one of the properties of a little  disturbed Nazi. that is
wasting the precious time of this
ng
and is a walking damage.

Y.Porat
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Autymn D. C. - 02 Sep 2005 08:43 GMT
> OK from now on i will know that i am
> a coward and a lier

You're too retarded to know what lier or i means.

> you are a proved lier
> in your latest posts you said that you are
> third the age of many posters here

Yes, I lie in bed as I post.

> so you even suffer form  lack of memory
> or selective memory

I'm not a hard drive or chip.

> not to mention your lies and lack of intelligence about the
> 'Gold - Platinum' process

nonexistent

> that is one of the properties of a little  disturbed Nazi. that is
> wasting the precious time of this
> ng
> and is a walking damage.

It is of you.

-Aut
Y.Porat - 02 Sep 2005 11:26 GMT
lets hear what others say

Y.Porat
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donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 02 Sep 2005 11:58 GMT
lets hear what others say

******************

OK.

"My water heater's been giving trouble lately"

Hope that helps.
Carlos L - 03 Sep 2005 19:30 GMT
Hi Porat:

I've reached the conclusion that Auty likes you. (Or is it Josie that
she likes?). Otherwise, why would she leave in her earlier post a trace
so that you can find more about her? Because if you go to  the URL that
she gave you:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/message/17865
you'll find at the bottom a broken link (that you can fix) and jump to
3 pages with plenty of juicy information about her.
If you like ducks you are a fortunate man because, you know, she
believes that in her earlier life "she was a duck".
Good luck.

Carlos L
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com - 03 Sep 2005 20:13 GMT
> I've reached the conclusion that Auty likes you. (Or is it Josie
> that she likes?). Otherwise, why would she leave in her earlier
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> you'll find at the bottom a broken link (that you can fix) and
> jump to 3 pages with plenty of juicy information about her.

And that about.com site in turn has a link, marked "Visit website",
to a site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EsotericWorldNews/ where
there's a photo of a lady who in most respects roughly matches
the personal details given at the about.com site, although it's
hard to be sure as the image desn't include her entire figure and
its quality isn't perfect, and the hair colour doesn't match for
any real values of tan.
Autymn D. C. - 05 Sep 2005 03:42 GMT
John, you fool, that's a picture of the EWN owner.  I only posted there
for awhile, a long while.
Autymn D. C. - 05 Sep 2005 03:48 GMT
And I would never be that old or ugly, you illiterate liar.
Y.Porat - 05 Sep 2005 07:09 GMT
and where from is your Hebrew knowledge??

TIA
Y.Porat
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Autymn D. C. - 05 Sep 2005 09:56 GMT
why?
Y.Porat - 05 Sep 2005 17:15 GMT
because it is very rare that 'an American'
will know Hebrew  !!
(Hebrew is a language of about 4 thousand years.)
it is based on those people who lived in
'Mesopotamia'
(somewhere in todays Iraq  )
and were called
'The Habiru'
they were very punctual about writing
not like me  (:-)
----------------

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------
josiemargolis@aol.com - 05 Sep 2005 20:55 GMT
I think that there are several people who've heard about the Golem
story without necessarily knowing how to speak Hebrew or being any sort
of expert on the subject of the ancient Hebrews.  It's something that a
person might (or might not)come across while reading about the history
of science fiction and the subject of man-made life forms (the
Frankenstein story, artificial intelligence, etc.)

I'm not sure that it makes a particularly good insult, however.

> because it is very rare that 'an American'
> will know Hebrew  !!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------
Robert J. Kolker - 06 Sep 2005 01:39 GMT
> because it is very rare that 'an American'
> will know Hebrew  !!

Several million do and not just Jews. As languages go, it is not all
that hard to learn, once one gets past the alphabet.

Bob Kolker
Y.Porat - 06 Sep 2005 05:12 GMT
yet for me as a native Israeli
it sometimes enough to hear just one word
to know with whom i am dealind ......

2 even if you are right
her interest in Hebrew and knowledge of it
has some meaning to me that seems not relevant to others
but is relevant to me .
explanations later ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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Autymn D. C. - 06 Sep 2005 09:32 GMT
> because it is very rare that 'an American'
> will know Hebrew  !!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> they were very punctual about writing
> not like me  (:-)

Josie is right for once, about the language not being relevant to my
knowing.  I just know about golems from Nethack and then looked it up.
However, my middle name is Hebrew for bee, which is quite right on.

-Aut
Y.Porat - 06 Sep 2005 09:39 GMT
what is  Net hack??

your middle name is Hebrew for bee??
please elaborate??
so are you a Jew??

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------
Autymn D. C. - 06 Sep 2005 09:48 GMT
> what is  Net hack??

I said Nethack.

> your middle name is Hebrew for bee??
> please elaborate??
> so are you a Jew??

No, retard.

-Aut
Y.Porat - 06 Sep 2005 10:22 GMT
so why did it took you so long to bring that 'story' of  Nethack??

tell us the truth were from your Hebrew knowledge is !!
Y.Porat
--------------------------
josiemargolis@aol.com - 06 Sep 2005 19:57 GMT
> so why did it took you so long to bring that 'story' of  Nethack??
>
> tell us the truth were from your Hebrew knowledge is !!
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------

I think you're on the wrong track here, as I was wrong when I jumped to
the conclusion that Autymn was anti-Jewish based on a post that turned
out to have been written by someone else.  True, the world is full of
anti-Semites and some of these people are secretly Jews who are ashamed
of their own Jewish heritage, but there isn't any evidence indicating
that Autymn is one of these people.

Besides, what difference does it make?  I would think that most Jews
who are proud of their heritage would sleep better at night if they
believed that Autymn's ethnic origin was Scottish-Welsh-German or some
other such combination that America tends to view as melting pot
vanilla.  Then again, maybe the Scots, Welsh, and Germans don't want
her either.

Take my word for it, lots of non-Jewish people have heard of the word
"golem" (such as JRR Tolkein.)  I think that Autymn just looked at the
".il" on your e-mail address and went fishing for something Israeli to
use in an insult.  It certainly fits her pattern.

Also, plenty of Americans have names from the Bible (such as Deborah),
and a person interested in spelling and linguistics would of course
have looked up her name to see the language origin and meaning.
Autymn D. C. - 07 Sep 2005 10:23 GMT
did it took -> did it take

retard
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com - 06 Sep 2005 12:09 GMT
> However, my middle name is Hebrew for bee, which is quite right on.

Deborah, right?

See http://www.behindthename.com/twins.php
Y.Porat - 04 Sep 2005 05:25 GMT
so what is that information
i think it becomes more interesting since she becomes a pain in the
neck
for too many people here.
2 i am interested to know whether she belongs to some institute
(or may be a gang....?)
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------
josiemargolis@aol.com - 05 Sep 2005 18:45 GMT
> so what is that information
> i think it becomes more interesting since she becomes a pain in the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Y.Porat
> -------------------------

What scientific institute would accept someone who believes that
falling objects travel in elliptical paths rather than parabolic paths?
(see below)

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Autymn D. C.
> Date: 4 Sep 2005 21:41:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: Inter group puzzler

>> Herc wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
>> Herc

> Based on what?  How did you standardise this?  By the way, the balls
> /do not/ move in parabolic curves (scientific lige) but in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> -Aut
josiemargolis@aol.com - 03 Sep 2005 02:31 GMT
> <snipped>
>
> Josie: You can't prove a damned thing you said.
> <snipped>
>
> -Aut

Well let's see.  This could take a long time, so let's start off small.
How about where I said that you are prejudiced against people from
other countries?  Here's a recent post of yours:

> From: Autymn D. C.
> Date: 1 Sep 2005 21:07:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: Does the earth slow down?

Carlos L wrote:
>> Not his "country of origin" but there is a high probability that Auty
>> is posting from Stockton, CA, US (since his Posting Host seems to be
>> located there).

> /her/, shithead.  This coming from a Spanish dumbass who thinks that
> "autumnus" translates into "otoño" and who can't even tell the sex of
> an English name.

> -Aut

How would the average person interpret the above remark of yours?

1. You intended the phrase "Spanish dumbass" to be an ethnic slur
against Spanish people;

or

2. You intended the "dumbass" as a slur but the word "Spanish" was
neutrally included so that readers would understand which dumbass you
were talking about.

I vote for option 1.  Is it proof?  No.  Is it evidence?  In my
opinion, yes.
Autymn D. C. - 03 Sep 2005 02:38 GMT
Josie the failed lawyer, I was talking about languages.  So Spanish as
an ethnic determiner is off-subject.  Also, you do not know what
prejudiced means: I have never spoken out of prejudice, but of
postjudice.  Where I argue, you cannot win.

-Aut
josiemargolis@aol.com - 03 Sep 2005 17:47 GMT
> Josie the failed lawyer, I was talking about languages.  So Spanish as
> an ethnic determiner is off-subject.  Also, you do not know what
> prejudiced means: I have never spoken out of prejudice, but of
> postjudice.  Where I argue, you cannot win.

Lawyer?  Does the word "evidence" make you think only of legality?
Most people reading a physics newsgroup would assume that the use of
the word "evidence" was a metaphor chosen in reference to observations
presented to support a hypothesis.  It was an attempt to present an
analogy to the scientific method (but only an analogy since the subject
is not science.  You demanded proof, but absolute proof is not really
how knowledge works unless the discussion is understood to take place
within the realm of a field of study that has accepted axioms.
Weighing the evidence is the best that we can do in the real world.

Regarding your "Spanish dumbass" comment:  Linguistic chauvinism is no
less repugnant than ethnic chauvinism, so what's your point?  Let's
look at this one...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Autymn D. C.
Date: 16 Jul 2005 14:43:26 -0700
Subject: Re: 7 articles published in a single year...wow!

> Here's a message to all illiterate Commonwealthlings out there: It's
> /haven't/ a clue, and crap is a NOUN, not an adjective, which is
> /crappy/.
> -Aut

Is this supposed to be a slur against people from countries in the
British Commonwealth?

And have you ever considered the question of your inappropriate use of
the word "retard" is a noun rather than a verb?
Autymn D. C. - 06 Sep 2005 09:48 GMT
> Lawyer?  Does the word "evidence" make you think only of legality?
> Most people reading a physics newsgroup would assume that the use of
> the word "evidence" was a metaphor chosen in reference to observations
> presented to support a hypothesis.  It was an attempt to present an

The laws of man or of world are still laws.  It is fit to call any
debater using evidence a lawyer.

> analogy to the scientific method (but only an analogy since the subject
> is not science.  You demanded proof, but absolute proof is not really
> how knowledge works unless the discussion is understood to take place
> within the realm of a field of study that has accepted axioms.
> Weighing the evidence is the best that we can do in the real world.

I didn't say anything about absolute proof.

> Regarding your "Spanish dumbass" comment:  Linguistic chauvinism is no
> less repugnant than ethnic chauvinism, so what's your point?  Let's
> look at this one...

http://dictionary.com/search?q=chauvinism

Hmm, nope, that was not chauvinism.  Repugnant or not, it is true.

> Is this supposed to be a slur against people from countries in the
> British Commonwealth?

against speakers

> And have you ever considered the question of your inappropriate use of
> the word "retard" is a noun rather than a verb?

You mean as, not is.  If you see the context and understand how parts
of speech are identified in English, then you should know it's not
inappropriate.

-Aut
Y.Porat - 03 Sep 2005 06:52 GMT
Josi

that is a dialog of one person

you have to realizes thats going on here (i actually got it very
quickly)

we are dealing here with two educational worlds!!

me and you and most western people are educated on:
'first   honesty and only later   'i win or you win'

th world in which Auty was educated is :

first  'i win'   and only at the third place  - honesty!!

no matter the price   'i must win'
even with the price of lying

go the little difference
and this  is in curable  even at her young age she is .

bottom line
she will never be a serious scientist(because intellectual integrity is
the first condition for that
or else you want to become a good lawyer   (:-) or politician !!-
thats the kind of a politician born type .

no matter if she gets marry ed or not   ...(:-)
and nothing is going to change that situation
so
second conclusion:
any discussion with Auty  is a wast of time

the most she can do is bringing some quotes
as she was useful for me for proving me right(unwillingly !!)  on the
Gold platinum issue

yet nothing but parroting

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 03 Sep 2005 11:56 GMT
Everyone knows that Porat is a pathological liar who can't back up
anything he claims about people or the world.  He twists being
disproven and nonproven into being proven because he's a shameless
shithead.  You'll never catch me lyging, but I regularly catch others,
who can't talk themselves out.
Y.Porat - 03 Sep 2005 14:40 GMT
anyone  who will follow this thread will realize who is a  lier
you can see it in another thread:

'Nuclear binding energies'
in the Gold Platinum   issue that verified unprecedentedly my
prediction
that Gold cannot be transformed to Platinum by any human deed
as it is now .

now what is interesting me now is the following question:

is that psycho alone

or may be there is some organization  behind that 'holy virgin'??

TIA
Y.Porat
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josiemargolis@aol.com - 04 Sep 2005 23:15 GMT
>> Autymn D. C. wrote:
>> <snipped>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> -Aut

Here are some other rude Autymn DC posts showing her xenophobia...

>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Autymn D. C.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> sustem base-twelve, using our units, we would be on the ball.  I'll fix
>> that in due time...

>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Autymn D. C.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>/haven't/ a clue, and crap is a NOUN, not an adjective, which is
>>/crappy/.

>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Autymn D. C.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Rambling foreigners get ignored fast.
>> <snipped>

>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Autymn D. C.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> -Aut
Autymn D. C. - 05 Sep 2005 03:39 GMT
I'm not afraid of strangers, fool.
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com - 08 Sep 2005 09:45 GMT
> Here are some other rude Autymn DC posts showing her xenophobia...
>
> >> Here's a message to all illiterate Commonwealthlings out there:
> >> It's /haven't/ a clue, and crap is a NOUN, not an adjective,
> >> which is /crappy/.

Seeing Autymn/Deborah's spelling of "arse", I assumed she must be
a Commonwealthling herself.
Richard Herring - 08 Sep 2005 11:19 GMT
>> Here are some other rude Autymn DC posts showing her xenophobia...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Seeing Autymn/Deborah's spelling of "arse", I assumed she must be
>a Commonwealthling herself.

No, that's just her spelling disorder. Her misuse of the transitive verb
"retard" as an epithet suggests a North American origin.

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Richard Herring

Y.Porat - 08 Sep 2005 15:51 GMT
Hi   Richard
how about some physics ?

it is a physics ng remember

dont let that disturbed creature to take  us all
out of the track!!

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 10 Sep 2005 01:02 GMT
> >> Here are some other rude Autymn DC posts showing her xenophobia...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> No, that's just her spelling disorder. Her misuse of the transitive verb
> "retard" as an epithet suggests a North American origin.

I have no disorders, fool. (fool = verb, noun)

-Aut
josiemargolis@aol.com - 01 Sep 2005 17:20 GMT
I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She thinks that she's
highly intelligent just because she had early experiences winning
spelling bees.  She can throw around scientific jargon glibly, but many
of her posts are communication failures in the sense that other people
often can't understand what she's saying.  She considers this
communication failure to be the fault of the reader, but of course the
fault is in the writing, which tends to include incomplete sentences,
question fagments such as "Why?" or "How?" in an ambiguous context,
pronouns with unclear references, and not giving enough background
information to let other people know what she's talking about.

When she's angry she tosses about unimaginative name-calling like a
twelve years old, but I think she's probably in her twenties, merely
too unskilled to come up with anything better to say.

She has a serious misunderstanding of the scientific method, the
academic process, and the general human endeavor to seek the truth.
She sees the world in a distorted black and white "I'm right -- You're
a retard" that just doesn't fit the evidence.  Even Wikipedia won't put
up with her atrocious behavior and lack of respect for opinions that
differ from her own.

She has no qualms about expressing her vulgar personal prejudices
against Jews, homosexuals, people from other countries, and people from
other parts of her own country.  Unfortunately she's also an outspoken
atheist who gives a bad name to all of the decent atheists out there.
She makes me ashamed to be a female American.

No doubt her reply will be that she hates us and wants us to "stop
making things up".  But there isn't any need to "make things up" since
she condemns herself with her own posts.

Hee spelling corrections are merely annoying.  Apparently she doesn't
believe in using "ph", an eccentricity that might be charming in less
obnoxious person.

> Carlos wrote :
>
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> -
josiemargolis@aol.com - 05 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT
I want to withdraw my comment about Autymn posting negative remarks
about Jews.  I jumped to this conclusion based on a web post that
quoted and replied to Autymn, but I now believe that this particular
post was misleading in that it handled the forwarding notation such
that some paragraphs looked as if they were written by Autymn when in
fact the writing style and opinions expressed are not consistent with
her other posts (and therefore probably not attributable to her).

I apologize for my mistake on this specific item.   The rest of my post
still seems correct to me.

> I think you're right about Stockton California, but wrong about her
> gender.  Her name is Autymn Deborah Castleton.  She thinks that she's
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
> >
> > -
donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 06 Sep 2005 01:53 GMT
Actually, according to cybernetics, one must ignore the substrate of a
metasystem when assessing its worth. An example - all of us think and
reason giving no attention to the substrate, 100,000,000,000 neurons.
Thus whatever Auty posts stands on it's own according to the Turing
test regardless of any characteristics of the author.  Thus the whole
basis of this thread is invalid.  Too bad the entire usergroup is
nothing but name-calling by a few who have nothing better to do.
Autymn D. C. - 06 Sep 2005 09:30 GMT
Josie Margolis - 06 Sep 2005 21:08 GMT
> Actually, according to cybernetics, one must ignore the substrate of a
> metasystem when assessing its worth. An example - all of us think and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> basis of this thread is invalid.  Too bad the entire usergroup is
> nothing but name-calling by a few who have nothing better to do.

You make an interesting point here.  I'll try to refrain from doing any
more posts on this subject.
Y.Porat - 07 Sep 2005 06:09 GMT
quote:

The rest of my post
still seems correct to me.
end of quote

Josi
please dont forget the this
REST OF YOUR POST
IS THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE !!

IE that crook Autymn(
that i am not sure it is at all
a woman)
is a pain in the neck

IE a walking damage that is disturbing any apposite physics
discussion!!
it is a sent gangster  by some gang.
for instance while i started a thread about
energy crisis and what can QM contribute
to solve it   this crock completely obfuscated it
by its crooked spelling business.
so other people completely forgot what is the main issue

and that is exactly what that  disturbed gangster and its gang  wanted
do do !!

do you get it?

Y.Porat
--------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 07 Sep 2005 10:25 GMT
I answered your QM question on-topic, deluded liar.
Y.Porat - 08 Sep 2005 04:29 GMT
you answered nothing
because you are unable to answer anything
you  are nothing but a little crook
and anyone will realize it very soon

you can cheat a person forever
you can cheat all   - just once
but you cant cheat everybody forever

Y.Porat
------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 08 Sep 2005 08:45 GMT
Porat is a schizoid liar who can't give credit where it's due or shut
up when he's wrong.
Y.Porat - 08 Sep 2005 15:56 GMT
Little crook
you supported Platinum Creation from Gold!!

(by Laser)!!

shows what is your real worth as a physicist
so dont talk about admitting mistakes??
Autymn D. C. - 10 Sep 2005 01:03 GMT
I supported rejecting your proofless lyging.
Y.Porat - 10 Sep 2005 10:54 GMT
no one believes until now  that Gold can be turned to Platinum by laser

it is not energetic enough to do such a transformation

if  people  claim they  did  it and you just parrot them means that you
are a parrot.

th probability of producing it as 1 to 10 billion
is good enough as null

if you dont get it
others get it
not to mention that the source sheet of Gold had more than 1 to 10
billion
impurities
no need to be too cleaver and minimal knowledgeable about those things
to realize it.
so the burden of prove is on the claimers of that experiment!
no need to believe them blindly on such an important and principal
issue

Y.P
-------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 11 Sep 2005 05:11 GMT
cleaver -> clever
prove -> proof

How energetic is your "big bang" event, that is ever more a fiction
than the petawatt laser?
Nick - 11 Sep 2005 05:25 GMT
It was an energy buildup. A universal one.
Y.Porat - 11 Sep 2005 10:14 GMT
do you realize how auty is (i try to be gentle)

missing knowledge??

th big band is alleged to be the most energetic even of this universe
history

IE it crushed anything and any  matter of was to the smallest sub
particles
and only later while cooling
all our matter   was created step by stem
more heavy as it became more cooler

laser is not even 'the flee on the cat's tail' compared to that.
laser of today as far as i know can make only minor changes of *light
nuclei*
and much less on the heavy ones.
one day i am going to show in my site
the structure of the say Gold  Platinum   mercury  nuclei
and you will understand what is the nuclear skeleton of  the nuclei
and what is the 'dressing' all around it
laser of today can tough only the 'dressing' the 'clothes' of the nuc.
not its 'bones'
at the meantime you can ask Michael Moroney about that difference
he got a copy of copy of my book.
and may be you can have some idea about it in general
in my site:
you can see there the alpha particles  building the 'rectangular pipe'
that is the skeleton
and on that skeleton smaller sub particles like protons Neutrons
Deuteron's etc
are connected peripherally.and they are the 'dressing of that skeleton
the differ enc Between Gold and Platinum is in the skeleton!!
it is not 'a different animal' but there is some noticeable difference

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
---------

ATB
Y.Porat
-----------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 11 Sep 2005 10:28 GMT
flee -> flea
i -> I

I don't entertain frauds.
Y.Porat - 11 Sep 2005 11:36 GMT
Hi psycho
Y.Porat - 14 Sep 2005 09:02 GMT
i just wonder:

what is the date in which 'Auty' first entered
this NG??

TIA
Y.Porat
------------------------------------
NunYa Bidness - 14 Sep 2005 15:34 GMT
>what is the date in which 'Auty' first entered
>this NG??

 "Auty" Murphy, medal of dishonor winner.
Y.Porat - 15 Sep 2005 06:48 GMT
as far as my Goggle  search
this creature came here just a few months ago !!!!!!!!

btw it is much worse than dishonor     it is mental decease!!

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 15 Sep 2005 15:07 GMT
There's no such thing as a Goggle  search, retard.  If I had a mental
decease, I couldn't be posting here, illiterate retard.
Y.Porat - 15 Sep 2005 15:52 GMT
OK not a mantel decease
but deep  mental disturbance

now you didn't answer a question that a normal person would answer:

what is the first date in which you cam into this news group??

TIA
Y.Porat
------------------------
Y.Porat - 16 Sep 2005 05:57 GMT
and the answer is .....????

TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 16 Sep 2005 08:20 GMT
Disturbances are neutral, neither good nor bad.  Why ask such a dumb
question?  Why don't you look it up?
Y.Porat - 16 Sep 2005 09:15 GMT
why are you evading such a simple question??

is it not disturbance

i want an authorized answer IE just from the 'horse mouth'

2 what is your formal  education

i want to know how can i rely on your physics judgments.

3 evasion maneuvering will be an answer as well ..........!!

4 it seems that these questions might interest other readers except me.

TIA
Y.Porat
----------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 17 Sep 2005 13:50 GMT
1. I evade easy questions.
2. Such education has nothing to do with these judgements.  Many
degreed and doctors are fools.
3. You evade every time someone asks you to prove your claims against
the establishment.  Your denial of the relativistic [correct]
predictions of length contraction in the heavy atoms, in the thread
about why mercury is a liquid, was pathetic, and your children should
be ashamed that they have a mentally disturbed and deluded fool in
their care.
4. Who's reading? except -> besides

-Aut
Y.Porat - 18 Sep 2005 07:01 GMT
> 1. I evade easy questions.
no that is not the reason
you evade the question of how long are you in this ng
because every one will understand that your arrogant mad  behavior
cannot by anyway fit a creature that is attending here just a few
months!!

only if you are disturbed completely
you are in this ng for many years but with another name
which sows that you are a crook
even your posing as a woman is a ridiculous lie of a disturbed crook!!
only at the goo Case for you
you are just a gangster sent by gangsters
btw Michael Varney  is a good  enough name for you
--

> 2. Such education has nothing to do with these judgements.  Many
> degreed and doctors are fools.

surprisingly enough i agree with you  only on that point (:-)

> 3. You evade every time someone asks you to prove your claims against
> the establishment.
first i show the absurd and contradiction
second
you cant understand my claims without having my full model.

Your denial of the relativistic [correct]
> predictions of length contraction in the heavy atoms,

where have you found me deny it ??
(may be in the few mounts that you are on this ng??(:-)
dont you realize that you are dealing with an intelligent person
that can reveal contradictions in your behavior?
a person who revealed some important secrets of the nucleus
cannot dis mask a human crook??
-----------

in the thread
> about why mercury is a liquid, was pathetic,
--------
what is that thread of yours
it was many years before you appeared here in this ng!!!!!..

dont you get that you reveal the mask of your real face??
2 i explained why mercury is liquid
one must have my Mercury Atoms scheme in order to understand it!!
without it you cant understand it

2  btw  thank you for helping me to verify my unprecedented prediction
that Gold cannot turn into Platinum!!
and the second prediction of Mercury to Gold
is on the way!!
can you even come close to such predictions ?? crook
----------------

and your children should
> be ashamed that they have a mentally disturbed and deluded fool in
> their care.
who is retarded and worse than that-
a psycho anybody can see

dont forget your pills.
and dont forget to answer in detaile
not just by one line. as an alleged scientist.

Y.Porat
-------------------
Autymn D. C. - 18 Sep 2005 10:19 GMT
> you evade the question of how long are you in this ng
> because every one will understand that your arrogant mad  behavior
> cannot by anyway fit a creature that is attending here just a few
> months!!

non sequitur

> only if you are disturbed completely
> you are in this ng for many years but with another name
> which sows that you are a crook

I'm not.  You couldn't even tell what country I was in.

> even your posing as a woman is a ridiculous lie of a disturbed crook!!

you

> only at the goo Case for you
> you are just a gangster sent by gangsters
> btw Michael Varney  is a good  enough name for you

paranoid delusions

> surprisingly enough i agree with you  only on that point (:-)
i -> I
You might be one of them.

> first i show the absurd and contradiction
i -> I
No, you don't.

> second
> you cant understand my claims without having my full model.
cant -> can't
with unseen structures?

> where have you found me deny it ??
> (may be in the few mounts that you are on this ng??(:-)
I already told you.  Stop reading behind and replying like a retard.
> dont you realize that you are dealing with an intelligent person
dont -> don't
> that can reveal contradictions in your behavior?
I deal with myself.
> a person who revealed some important secrets of the nucleus
> cannot dis mask a human crook??

cannot what?

> what is that thread of yours
> it was many years before you appeared here in this ng!!!!!..

Use Google Groups search, fool.  It wasn't "my" thread.

> dont you get that you reveal the mask of your real face??
dont -> don't
wrong

> 2 i explained why mercury is liquid
i -> I
> one must have my Mercury Atoms scheme in order to understand it!!
> without it you cant understand it
cant -> can't
How about the numbers?

> 2  btw  thank you for helping me to verify my unprecedented prediction
> that Gold cannot turn into Platinum!!
wrong
> and the second prediction of Mercury to Gold
> is on the way!!
> can you even come close to such predictions ?? crook

Where are your numbers, liar?

> dont forget your pills.
dont -> don't
> and dont forget to answer in detaile
dont -> don't
detaile -> detail
> not just by one line. as an alleged scientist.

You're only worth one line.
Y.Porat - 18 Sep 2005 10:59 GMT
Hi imbecile disturbed crook
people already realize whom you are
a scum disturbed  Nazi
you are not worth exchanging a single sentence with anybody
just a peace of human sh.t.

Y.P
----------------
Autymn D. C. - 18 Sep 2005 15:49 GMT
Yes you are.
Y.Porat - 19 Sep 2005 08:03 GMT
Auty is certainly not a woman
no woman would ever behave that way

and that the first sign of a human sh.t phenomena

so  if anyone can add some more information about that creature
welcome
for instance that creature refuses to tell what is its formal education
i never before met such behavior-- clear sing of a dishonest  crook
and  tells everybody how to relate to its scientific judgment
so what is and who is behind that human peace of  sh.t??
that is  wasting the precious time of this ng.

Y.Porat
---------------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 21 Sep 2005 09:27 GMT
I reflect the other writer's personality and amplify their flaws.
Anyone learnt and caring will notice your delusions and roast you for
them.  So you are what you've groundlessly accused, shithead.
Y.Porat - 21 Sep 2005 15:14 GMT
shitty Auty
what is your formal education
why do you refuse to tell it
i never before met a case like that of someone who refuses to tell
that.

just tell the people about how seriously they can take you as a science
physics  judge.

Y.P
-------------------------
Autymn D. C. - 22 Sep 2005 11:48 GMT
There is no such person here, schizo.
donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 22 Sep 2005 12:00 GMT
Do you two realize how incredibly boring you two are outside the
Porat-Autymn system??????
Y.Porat - 22 Sep 2005 12:07 GMT
OK i agree with you
so the solution is a cease fire
IE
i ignore her (him) and he ignores me
if you arrange it
you get the Nobel prize for peace ..........

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------------
brian a m stuckless - 22 Sep 2005 13:02 GMT
$    Y (You can call me DR-like!) Porat
Within the PARTiCLE PHYSiCs sausage of LiFE;
Y Porat is MOST OUTSTANDiNGLY, the FiLLER.!!
SOMEone please ask him what is his learning.
Perhaps, Y (You can call me DR-like!) Porat.
He so DESPERATELY! wants SOMEone to ASK him.
DR-like Y [CRACKED-pot (GR crackpot)] Porat.
GET the GUTs to say, "i AM, DR-like Y Porat.
Sincerely c,
```Brian

 >><> >><> >><> >><> >><>
onstockbauer@hotmail.com wrote:
> Do you two realize how incredibly boring you two are
> outside the Porat-Autymn system??????
brian a m stuckless - 22 Sep 2005 13:02 GMT
> Do you two realize how incredibly boring you two are outside the
> Porat-Autymn system??????

$    Y (You can call me DR-like!) Porat
Within the PARTiCLE PHYSiCs sausage of LiFE;
Y Porat is MOST OUTSTANDiNGLY, the FiLLER.!!
SOMEone please ask him what is his learning.
Perhaps, Y (You can call me DR-like!) Porat.
He so DESPERATELY! wants SOMEone to ASK him.
DR-like Y [CRACKED-pot (GR crackpot)] Porat.
GET the GUTs to say, "i AM, DR-like Y Porat.
Sincerely c,
```Brian

 >><> >><> >><> >><> >><>
Y.Porat - 23 Sep 2005 07:08 GMT
sorry
i understood nothing of what you  said
can you say it in one simple sentence??
and btw
the issue here is Auty not Porat
----------------------
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------
Y.Porat - 19 Sep 2005 15:12 GMT
you are not even original  shitty

Y.P
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