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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / November 2005



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GR-c goes "instantaneously" from 0 to c ..in NO time.!! But jOE, Tom Roberts says LiGHT "STOPs slowing down".!! [  Does SPEED c "STOP slowing down" instantaneously.?  ] [  Does VELOCiTY c "STOP slowing down" ..automatically.?  ] Does LiGHT "STOP slowing down" instantaneously automatically.?!! What is "simultaneity" for TWO different POiNTs on a TiME-line.?

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brian a m stuckless - 16 Nov 2005 09:15 GMT
$               Wicked acceleration.
GR-c goes "instantaneously" from 0 to c ..in NO time.!!
But jOE, Tom Roberts says LiGHT "STOPs slowing down".!!

[  Does SPEED c "STOP slowing down" instantaneously.?  ]
[  Does SPEED c "STOP slowing down" ..automatically.?  ]

[  Does VELOCiTY c "STOP slowing down" instantaneously.?  ]
[  Does VELOCiTY c "STOP slowing down" ..automatically.?  ]

Does LiGHT "STOP slowing down" instantaneously automatically.?!!
                                  brian a m stuckless
 >><> >><> >><> >><> >><>
Joe Fischer wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:00:04 +1100, "em"
<nootlanoo@dodiggerdo> wrote: > > >"N:dlzc
> >> Dear em:
> >> ... when/if it is fact.
> >A lot of effort and energy has been expended to find limitations
> >and/or error with GR. To date none has been found.
> >
> >That is good enough for me. I'll I'll put my money on WEP EEP
> >and GR and declare them absolute.
>
>           Isn't relativity meant to replace "absolute". :-)
>
> >> It would have to be expanding on very large scales, to avoid
> >> detection.
> >> And any such expansion would not be a Loretnz aether.
> >
> >If every Aetheric particle in the universe was simultaneously
> >expanding at the same rate, in such manner that all rulers and
> >units of measure, even the wave length of light would also have
> >to be effected by this expansion.
>
>           Right, and this is one of the things about Divergent
> Matter that I like, even though I have no interest at all in
> Special Relativity.
>
>           I study Divergent Matter as both a model for gravity,
> and as a model to make many different processes part of a pattern
> rather than haphazard.
>
> >If the propagation of light was indeed mediated by say the
> >propagation of a longitudinal vacuum wave then as the particles
> >of Aether increased in size, so too would the frequency of any
> >event be automatically carried with it.
>
>          There is no aether, and none is needed. --

insert HERE ..see top of PAGE.!!

> --    Because of the fact that light appears to instantly
> "travel" at c when it is emitted, --

$               Wicked acceleration.
GR-c goes "instantaneously" from 0 to c ..in NO time.!!
But jOE, Tom Roberts says LiGHT "STOPs slowing down".!!

[  Does SPEED c "STOP slowing down" instantaneously.?  ]
[  Does SPEED c "STOP slowing down" ..automatically.?  ]

[  Does VELOCiTY c "STOP slowing down" instantaneously.?  ]
[  Does VELOCiTY c "STOP slowing down" ..automatically.?  ]

Does LiGHT "STOP slowing down" instantaneously automatically.?!!

> -- the expansion on matter resulting in a lengthening meter
> and a lengthening unit of time, light could "travel" farther in
> succeeding seconds, but would still retain the same frequency and
> wavelength to "current" meters and seconds.
>
>         But the real kicker is that the longer second, allowing
> light to "travel" farther each succeeding second would mean that
> the "speed" of light would always be measured as c, --

GR VELOCiTY c is AUTOMATiC.!!
GR VELOCiTY c is iNSTANTANEOUS.!!
GR VELOCiTY c is AUTOMATiCALLY iNSTANTANEOUS.!!

GR SPEED c is AUTOMATiC.!!
GR SPEED c is iNSTANTANEOUS.!!
GR SPEED c is AUTOMATiCALLY iNSTANTANEOUS.!!

> -- AND that _nothing_ having mass that must accelerate could
> ever "travel" as fast as light.

Only LiGHT "travels", AUTOMATiCALLY, iNSTANTANEOUSLY.!!

>         So the expanding matter (Divergent Matter) model absolutely
> requires that c is --

..AUTOMATiCALLY, iNSTANTANEOUSLY, ...

> -- a limiting velocity.
>
> >No, it is not the Lorentz Aether, (nor Einstein's either), --

Leave "EinsteiN's either" OUT of this, jOE.!!

> -- but then again if Lorentz had of completed the task of unmasking
> the Aether, everybody would have yelled, 'BINGO.'
>
>          There is no aether, why mention it.

"AEther", "either", "ether", He der ..iAMbient media gradient.!!
*Disbelief* is the SiMPLiST form of virtual "objectification".!!

> >I am thinking more the geodesic is not caused by a physical
> >curvature of space more so the expansion of space itself and
> >the earth racing up to met it.
>
>          The "geodesic" is simply an object following through
> on it's present motion and proceeding in inertial motion without
> any interaction of any kind.      "Space" has no attributes and
> needs none, the distance between objects changes, and that makes
> it appear as if space had an attribute of length on 3 axes.
>
>           That is why the concept of "attraction" due to gravity
> has no place in physics.

Explain an "attraction" of TWO different POiNTs on a WORLD-line.
Explain an "attraction" of POiNTs, on TWO different WORLD-lines.

What is "simultaneity" for TWO different POiNTs on a TiME-line.?
What is "simultaneity" for POiNTs, on TWO different TiME-lines.?

> Joe Fischer
donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 16 Nov 2005 11:15 GMT
Brian, it must have been terrible to have gotten no attention when you
were young.  I sincerely hope that this forum of sci.physics is
remedying this situation, and some day that thy soul shall be healed.

- Rupert
 
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