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brian a m stuckless - 25 Feb 2006 12:51 GMT

[THERMAL mass transfer]: Gerald L. O'Barr wrote: > -=-

> In <oPtJf.48922$dW3.25797@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>
> >> I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass.
> Tom Roberts wrote: -=-SNiP-=- -=- eV/c^2. -=-

$$ The GUESS iSS test REST mass is, eM/c^2. [Brackets mine.]

> Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr> comments: > -=-
> In SR [& GR], they have changed the meaning of the word, 'mass.'

[Conspiring with SOME economically-associated collaborates, etc.]

> Mass no longer means mass, as it is used in all other
> sciences. In SR [and GR], they today only allow the word
> 'mass' to mean 'rest mass.' Those in SR [and GR] are too weak
> to use mass the way everyone [General Science] else uses this
> word [mass].

-=-

> So a photon, never being at rest, still has to have
> mass, as it is defined in all other [GENERAL] sciences.
> And a photon will always have such mass, since it is always
> moving. Therefore, a photon is a real particle of mass, as
> others [General Science] would say it.
>
> g...@hotmail.com wrote:

> >> But do we know the amount of energy a single
> >>photon can produce [as ABSORBED] and then use E=mc^2
> >>thus [EQUiVALENT] m = E/c^2 [as ABSORBED mass.] -=-

$$ THERMAL mass transfer (Radiation light).
$$ A photon EMiTTED with energy h*f, subs ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ A photon ABSORBED with energy h*f adds ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ Think of this as you would poking MARBLEs through tube.
$$ [So ONE's Loss Marble is ANOTHER's gain, by increment].

$$ Fridge magnet = suction cup equation, next.
$$ Think of a Regrigerator Magnet as a Fridge Suction Cup.
$$ Each must do WORK in OVERcoming friction, or FALL down.
$$ Refrigerator Magnet = Fridge Suction Cups of Trembling.

$$ Hope this helps, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).

> Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: -=-
> >E single photon has energy E=hv, where h is Planck's constant,
> >and v is the frequency [as MEASURED] of the [says Tom] source.

-=- < < <deletes> > > Thanks for reading.

> Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@yahoo.com > Remove three dots

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brian a m stuckless - 27 Feb 2006 08:51 GMT

$$ Thermal mass transfer.

> >> I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass.
> Tom Roberts wrote: -=-SNiP-=- -=- eV/c^2. -=-

$$ The GUESS iSS test REST mass is, eM/c^2.

> In SR [& GR], they have changed the meaning of the word, 'mass.'

$$ Conspiring with SOME economically-associated collaborates, etc.

> [The GR] Mass no longer means mass, as it is used in all other
> sciences. In SR [and also GR], they today only allow the word
> 'mass' to mean 'rest mass.' Those in SR [and GR] are too weak
> to use mass the way everyone [General Science] else uses this
> word [mass].

-=-

> So a photon, never being at rest, still has to have mass, as
> it [GENERAL mass] is defined in all other [SI General] sciences.

-=-

> Therefore, a photon is a real particle of [GENERAL SI] mass, as
> [General Scientists and many many (Non-GR)] others would say it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >> produce [as ABSORBED by a detector] and then use E=mc^2
> >> thus [the EQUiVALENT mass] m = E/c^2 [as ABSORBED mass.] -=-

$$ THERMAL mass transfer (radiation light).
$$ A photon EMiTTED with energy h*f, subs ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ A photon ABSORBED with energy h*f adds ..h*f/c^2, mass.

$$ Think of this as you would MARBLEs in your GARDEN HOSE.
$$ [ONE's Loss Marble is ANOTHER's gain ..and visa-versa].
$$ Newton's Cradle ..a desktop MODEL of Light Propagation.

$$ Fridge Magnet = Suction Cup equation.
$$ Think of a Regrigerator Magnet as a Fridge Suction Cup.
$$ Each must do WORK in OVERcoming friction, or FALL down.
$$ Refrigerator Magnet = Fridge Suction Cups of Trembling.

$$ Hope this helps, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).

> Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: -=-
> > E single photon has energy E=hv, where h is Planck's constant,
> > and v is the frequency [as MEASURED] of the [says Tom] source.

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brian a m stuckless - 27 Feb 2006 19:06 GMT

$$ THERMAL mass [h*f/c^2] transfer. ..[Edit 2.]

> >> I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass.
> Tom Roberts [admits] wrote: -=-SNiP -=- eV/c^2. [You can to.]

$$ The GUESS iSS test REST mass is, (eG - eV) / c^2 = eM / c^2.

$$ The GR coup (after Einstein died):

> In SR [& GR], they have changed the meaning of the word, 'mass.'

-=-

> [The GR] Mass no longer means mass, as it is used in all other
> sciences [GENERAL Science]. In SR [..and also GR], they today
> only allow the word 'mass' to mean 'rest mass.'

$$ [The GR coup, m NOT= E/c^2 ..but E STiLL= m*c^2.]
-=-

> So a photon, never being at rest, still has to have mass, as
> it [GENERAL mass] is defined in all other [SI GENERAL] sciences.

-=-

> Therefore, a photon is a real particle of [GENERAL SI] mass, as
> [GENERAL Scientists and many many (Non-GR)] others would say it.

-=-

> >> But do we know the amount of energy a single photon can
> >> produce [as ABSORBED by a detector] and then use E=mc^2 thus
> >> [the EQUiVALENT mass] m = E/c^2 [as ABSORBED mass.] -=- -=-

$$ THERMAL mass transfer (radiation light).
$$ A photon EMiTTED with energy h*f, subs ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ A photon ABSORBED with energy h*f adds ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ Think of this as you would MARBLEs in your GARDEN HOSE.
$$ [ONE's Loss Marble is ANOTHER's gain ..and visa-versa].
$$ Newton's Cradle ..a desktop MODEL of Light Propagation.
$$ Note end TRANSMiTTER alternativly becomes end RECiEVER.
$$ [The MiDDLE MARBLEs can be in a GARDEN HOSE ..instead].
$$ [And, the GARDEN HOSE ..ANALOGOUS light path AMBiENCE].

$$ Fridge Magnet = Suction Cup equation.
$$ Think of a Regrigerator Magnet as a Fridge Suction Cup.
$$ Each must do WORK in OVERcoming friction, or FALL down.
$$ Refrigerator Magnet = Fridge Suction Cups of Trembling.

$$ Hope this helps, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).

> Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: -=-
> > E single photon has energy E=hv, where h is Planck's constant,
> > and v is the frequency [as MEASURED] of the [says Tom] source.

$$ Added response.

|> > [QUESTiON]: Is there a one word name for thermal radiation
|> > similar to "photon" that emphasizes the particle attributes?
|> [Web ANSWER]: Sure there is: photons. |> -- -=- The Mayor -=-.

$$ Re: THERMAL mass photons.
$$ Re: Photon gas ambient (AEther) medium.
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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / February 2006

THERMAL mass transfer.