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9/11 Collapse Theory Fails Physics Reality Check

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noahdove7@lightspeed.ca - 12 May 2006 01:13 GMT
9/11 Collapse Theory Fails Physics Reality Check

http://www.911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
On September 11, 2001, most of the world watched in horror as the Twin
Towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) collapsed. People did not have
to be tuned in at the time in order to have seen it; it was repeated ad

nauseum on television for days.
In June 2005, in an apparent response to an article by Morgan Reynolds,

Robert Gates, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
(CIA) stated, "The American people know what they saw with their own
eyes on September 11, 2001. To suggest any kind of government
conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale."

Well, first of all, the American people saw things not with their own
eyes but on television, which is comprised nowadays of digital
information, which can be manipulated by computers. So Gates' premise
is flawed. On the other hand, the towers are gone. So let's just
examine his other premise: whether or not it is true that people know
what they saw.

(The following must be said before we can get to the physics.)

The government and the media told us what we saw. The government told
us that we had witnessed a "gravitational" collapse; what is now
referred to as a "pancake collapse". According to the government's, and

PBS's, and Popular Mechanics', and Scientific American's theory,
airplane crashes and subsequent kerosene (like lamp oil; jet fuel is
NOT exotic) fires heated steel to the point where it was weakened,
which is already very difficult to believe, nevermind repeat in an
experiment. According to their "pancake theory", this imagined
purported (all the evidence was subsequently illegally destroyed)
weakening supposedly caused part of the tower to collapse downward onto

the rest of the tower, which, we've been repeatedly told, somehow
resulted in a chain reaction of lower floors, sequentially, one at a
time, yielding to the floors falling from above.

There are at least 2 problems with that theory; it does not fit the
observed facts: It cannot account for either the total failure of the
immense core columns, nor the too-rapid-to-blame-it-all-on-gravity
collapse times. This article focuses on the latter of these two
mentioned discrepancies.

The scientists who've concocted this "pancake theory" made a fatal
error: they forgot to check their work! Which is an easy thing to do,
even without any physical evidence to forensically examine. Anyone, at
any time, can check the work of the scientists -- that incredible
pancake theory of theirs -- using simple, high-school physics!

And that's what we're about to do here. We're going to check the work
-- something every grade-schooler is taught to do -- of those
"scientists".

We will use a simple, unassailable, incontrovertable
conservation-of-energy analysis to perform a simple, basic reality
check that establishes, once and for all, that the U.S. government,
PBS, Popular Mechanics, and Scientific American have misrepresented the

true nature of the events of 9/11.

How Gravity Acts

Sir Isaac Newton noticed, centuries ago, that apples fell (down! never
up...) from trees. Lots of others, before him, had also noticed this,
but none had ever devised a theory of gravity from the observation.
Over the years, mankind has learned that the force of gravity comes
from an acceleration of known constant magnitude, depending only upon
mass and separation. (That doesn't mean we know HOW it works, or WHY,
but we have managed to be able to predict its effects with a high
degree of precision and an even higher degree of certainty -- gravity
has always had the same, predictable, effect.)

Of course, people didn't figure this stuff out immediately. According
to legend, Galileo Galilei used the leaning tower of Pisa to
demonstrate that a large ball and a small one (of lesser mass) fell
(accelerated) at the same rate. Prior to Galileo, people had just
assumed that heavier objects fell faster (much the way mankind had long

assumed that the Earth was flat!).

So while an object of greater mass will exert more force upon anything
which is supporting it against gravity's pull (ie, it's heavier), it
does not experience any greater acceleration when gravity's pull is not

opposed (ie, when it's falling). Gravity can only accelerate objects at

one known, constant rate. Heavier objects are not accelerated
(downward) any quicker than are lighter objects, as Galileo
demonstrated centuries ago.

The Simplest Case

>From experimentation, it has been discovered that, near the surface of

the Earth, Earth's gravity will produce a downward acceleration of 32
feet per second per second.
What that means is that an object, after falling one second, will be
falling at 32 ft/sec.

After the 2nd second, it will be falling at 64 ft/sec.

After the 3rd second, it will be falling at 96 ft/sec.

And so on.

Similarly, since gravity's acceleration is constant, and it's falling
at 32 ft/sec after one second has elapsed, we know that it has averaged

16 ft/sec for the entire distance, which, after one second, is 16 feet.

As you might imagine, after quite a few such thought experiments, some
simple free-fall equations have been derived which can be used to
harness this knowledge via numbers and arithmetic:

Velocity = Gravity x Time

and

Distance = 1/2 x Gravity x Time(squared)

So if we want to know how far the object has free-fallen after 3
seconds:

Distance = 1/2 x 32 x 9 = 144 feet

So after 3 seconds, in Earth's gravity, an object will have fallen 144
feet and will be falling at 96 ft/sec.

Checking Our Work

OK, we've just solved a simple physics problem! Now let's check our
work, using conservation of energy.

We know that energy is neither created nor destroyed. It merely changes

forms. If we take the potential (chemical) energy in a barrel of oil
and burn it, we get heat energy. When we take refined oil and burn it
in our car's engine, we get kinetic (ie, motion) energy (plus some
heat; an engine's not 100% efficient). When we use our car's brakes to
bleed off some of that kinetic energy (ie, slow down), the energy is
converted into heat (the brakes get HOT).

In the case of the free-falling body, the two kinds of energy we are
concerned with are kinetic energy and potential energy. Examples of
potential (gravitational) energy are the water stored way up high in a
water tower, or a boulder perched atop a hill. If whatever's holding
them up there is removed, they will come down, under the influence of
gravity's pull.

So, as an object falls, it gives up potential energy for kinetic
energy.

It turns out that the equation for potential energy is as follows:

Potential Energy = Mass x Gravity x Height

It turns out that the equation for kinetic energy is as follows:

Kinetic Energy = 1/2 x Mass x Velocity(squared)

So let's just say, for the sake of simplicity, that our falling object
has a mass of 1. (Remember, the object's mass will affect its energy,
and its momentum, but not its rate of free-fall.)

The potential energy given up by falling 3 seconds (144 ft) is 1 x 32 x

144 = 4608

The kinetic energy gained after falling 3 secs is 1/2 x 1 x 96(squared)

= 1/2 x 9216 = 4608

So, all of the available potential energy was converted to kinetic
energy. Seeing that energy was, in fact, conserved is how we know that
the answer in The Simplest Case, above, was correct. We've checked our
work, using an independent analysis, based upon the sound principle of
conservation of energy. Now, and only now, we can be certain that our
answer was correct.

One Little Complication

Air resistance.

The free-fall equations reflect a perfect, frictionless world. They
perfectly predict the behavior of falling bodies in a vacuum. In fact,
some of you may have seen a science class demonstration in which the
air is pumped out of a tube and then a feather will fall, in that
vacuum, as fast as will a solid metal ball.

That's how parachutes work: much of the falling object's potential
energy gets expended doing the work of pushing a lot of air out of the
way in order for the object to fall. As a result, not all of the
potential gravitational energy can go towards accelerating the object
downward at at gravity's maximal rate of 32 ft/sec/sec.

In other words, only when there is zero resistance can any falling
object's potenial energy be completely converted into kinetic energy.
Anything which interferes with any falling object's downward
acceleration will cause its acceleration to be reduced from the maximum

gravitational acceleration of 32 feet per second per second, as some of

gravity's potential energy is consumed doing work overcoming
resistance.

That's why you may have heard the term "terminal velocity". The
free-fall equations predict that a falling object's velocity will
continue to increase, without limit. But in air, once a falling object
reaches a certain speed, it's propensity to fall will be matched by
air's resistance to the fall. At that point the object will continue to

fall, but its speed will no longer increase over time.

A Quick Recap

Earth's gravity causes objects to fall. They fall according to precise,

well-known equations. The equations assume no (air) resistance. Any
resistance at all will cause the object to fall less rapidly than it
would have without that resistance.

It is that last sentence which bears repeating.

There is a maximum possible rate at which objects fall, and if any of
gravity's potential energy is consumed doing anything other than
accelerate the object downward -- even just having to push air out of
the way -- there will be less energy available to accelerate the object

downward, and so that object's downward acceleration will be
diminished.

And if an object's downward acceleration is diminshed, it will be going

slower along the way, and thus it will take longer to fall a given
distance.

Free-falling from WTC heights

The towers were 1350 and 1360 feet tall. So let's start by using our
trusty free-fall equation to see how long it should take an object to
free-fall from the towers' former height.

Distance = 1/2 x Gravity x Time(squared)

or

Time(squared) = (2 x Distance) / Gravity

Time(squared) = 2710 / 32 = 84.7

Time = 9.2

So our equation tells us that it will take 9.2 seconds to free-fall to
the ground from the towers' former height.

Using our simpler equation, V = GT, we can see that at 9.2 seconds, in
order to reach the ground in 9.2 seconds, the free-falling object's
velocity must be about 295 ft/sec, which is just over 200 mph.

But that can only occur in a vacuum.

Since the WTC was at sea level, in Earth's atmosphere, you might be
able to imagine how much air resistance that represents. (Think about
putting your arm out the window of a car moving half that fast!) Most
free-falling objects would reach their terminal velocity long before
they reached 200 mph. For example, the commonly-accepted terminal
velocity of a free-falling human is around 120 mph. The terminal
velocity of a free-falling cat is around 60 mph. (source)

Therefore, air resistance alone will make it take longer than 10
seconds for gravity to pull an object to the ground from the towers'
former height.

Observations from 9/11

On page 305 of the 9/11 Commission Report, we are told, in the
government's "complete and final report" of 9/11, that the South Tower
collapsed in 10 seconds. (That's the government's official number.
Videos confirm that it fell unnaturally, if not precisely that, fast.
See for yourself: QT Real)

But as we've just determined, that's free-fall time. That's close to
the free-fall time in a vacuum, and an exceptionally rapid free-fall
time through air.

But the "collapse" proceeded "through" the lower floors of the tower.
Those undamaged floors below the impact zone would have offered
resistance that is thousands of times greater than air. Recall that
those lower floors had successfully suported the mass of the tower for
30 years.

Air can't do that.

Can anyone possibly imagine the undamaged lower floors getting out of
the way of the upper floors as gracefully and relatively frictionlessly

as air would? Can anyone possibly imagine the undamaged lower floors
slowing the fall of the upper floors less than would, say, a parachute?

It is beyond the scope of the simple, but uncontested, physics in this
presentation to tell you how long the collapse should have taken. Would

it have taken minutes? Hours? Days? Forever?

Perhaps. But what is certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt, is that the

towers could not have collapsed gravitationally, through intact lower
floors, as rapidly as was observed on 9/11.

Not even close!

Because, as you may recall, not only was much energy expended in
causing the observed massive high-speed sideways ejections, but
virtually all the glass and concrete was "pulverized" -- actually
"dissociated" is a better word. (Nevermind what happened to all the
supporting steel core columns...!!!) And the energy requirements to do
anything even remotely like that rival the total amount of potential
energy that the entire tower had to give. (source) So while gravity is
nearly strong enough to cause some things to fall that far, through
air, in the observed interval, and while gravity is probably not strong

enough to have so thoroughly disintegrated the towers under their own
weight, gravity is certainly not strong enough to have done both at
once.

Conclusions

In order for the tower to have collapsed "gravitationally", as we've
been told over and over again, in the observed duration, one or more of

the following zany-sounding conditions must have been met:

The undamaged floors below the impact zone offered zero resistance to
the collapse
The glass and concrete spontaneously disintegrated without any
expenditure of energy
On 9/11, gravity was much stronger than gravity
On 9/11, energy was not conserved
However, none of these physics-violating conditions can be accounted
for by the official government conspiracy theory of 9/11, nor by any of

the subsequent analyses designed to prop up the official theory of
9/11.

Bottom line: the government/PBS/PM/SA explanation for the WTC collapses

fails the most basic conservation-of-energy reality check. Therefore
the government/PBS/PM/SA theory does not fit the observed facts; the
notion of a "pancake collapse" cannot account for what happened. The
"pancake collapse theory" explanation is impossible, and thus absurd.

It is utterly impossible for a "gravitational collapse" to proceed so
destructively through a path of such great resistance in anywhere near
free-fall times. This fact debunks the preposterous contention that the

observed WTC collapses can be blamed solely upon damages resulting from

aerial assaults.

So, to the extent that people accept the ridiculous "pancake collapse"
explanation, Gates' other premise, that people know what they saw, is
also incorrect. It is left to the reader to decide if his conclusion,
which was based upon two incorrect presumptions, is also flawed.

The purported "gravitational" collapse (video) of World Trade Center
building 7, which was hit by zero aircraft, and which also vertically
collapsed in within 1 second of free-fall-time-in-a-vacuum later that
same day, similarly fails this same conservation-of-energy analysis.

The explanation for how and why so many highly-accredited and
credentialed people all so miserably failed to check the "pancake
collapse" theory, by giving it this basic reality check, is beyond the
scope of this simple physics discussion.
noahdove7@lightspeed.ca - 12 May 2006 07:00 GMT
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Press Releases

EXPERTS CLAIM OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY IS A HOAX
Scholars for 9/11 Truth call for verification and publication by an
international consortium.

Duluth, MN (PRWEB) January 30, 2006 -- A group of distinguished experts

and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne
Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have
concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial
facts about what really happened on 9/11.

They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars
for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their
own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation
about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by
elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into
supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned
absent "another Pearl Harbor."

They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself

and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable
administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.

They are encouraging news services around the world to secure
scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify

or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they
believe, require extraordinary measures.

If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history
would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators
would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this
nation from ever greater abuse.

They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their
opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expected from

our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It

has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to

the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major
unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for
its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the
great turning-point events of modern history.

Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has
brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their
knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or
dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab

hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought
this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have
studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that
video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.

They have found the government's own investigation to be severely
flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was
directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA

sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush
supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be

expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.

They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with
omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has

documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the
collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes,
was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the
attack.

Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and
scholars find profoundly troubling:

In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise
buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or
since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is

this possible?

The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged
"hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet
according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How
is this possible?

Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were

designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact
of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting
with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?

Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of
jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800°F under optimal conditions, and
UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings
cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in
the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very
close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this
possible?

Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking
four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage
to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this
possible?

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at
the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young
officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the
Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to
shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?

A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight
93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris
scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is
scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this
possible?

A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on
9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and
distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is
this possible?

The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating
the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet

Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one
ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is
this possible?
Their own physics research has established that only controlled
demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and
virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While

turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into
their own footprints.
These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude
that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which
has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of
"creating our own reality."
Tim - 13 May 2006 02:12 GMT
Is it possible that the floor collapse started before the ten seconds?
In other lthe words, inside the building started collapsing earlier.
Then the outside walls would have remained standing until the ten
second mark, collapsing to ground level at zero seconds. But the first
sheared floor could have been at thirteen seconds.

I am not a WTC 9/11 afficianado. I am aware that many people believe
the conspiracy theories, one of which suggests that explosives were
used. It is sad that we cannot trust the government or the media and
are left to make our own truth.

I found the PBS Frontline theory to be convincing. I do not find most
of the conspiracy theories to be convincing. They rely too much on
people's intuition of how a building collapses. They dodge some key
facts. For example the WTCs were very lightly built.

There are so many larger problems. Why does Al Quaida exist in the
first place?
Because we have exerted too much force in their part of the world and
that force has been crooked. Palestine is some of their strongest
ground.

This group is not the proper place for this discusssion and you will
get few comments here  because of it. sci.physics would be a fine place
for it though. Also you will get more comments if you get rid of all
but the crux information. No need to derive the physics for the people
here. A few short paragraphs will probably get you more readers and
repliers.

-Tim
 
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