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Particles bombarding earth's atomsphere

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muser - 05 Jul 2006 11:34 GMT
I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
hitting the earth's atomsphere. Can anyone provide a link to where this
is being studied. If such particles come from quasars or supernovas,
how are they able to retain so much of their energy? And if they lose
energy are there any reasonable assumptions as to how much charge they
originally possessed.
Phineas T Puddleduck - 05 Jul 2006 17:24 GMT
> I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> hitting the earth's atomsphere. Can anyone provide a link to where this
> is being studied. If such particles come from quasars or supernovas,
> how are they able to retain so much of their energy? And if they lose
> energy are there any reasonable assumptions as to how much charge they
> originally possessed.

Why would they lose charge?

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PD - 05 Jul 2006 19:19 GMT
> I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge

50 eV is an energy, not a charge, and not much energy to boot.
Might be good to recheck the reading to find out what it really said.

> hitting the earth's atomsphere. Can anyone provide a link to where this
> is being studied. If such particles come from quasars or supernovas,
> how are they able to retain so much of their energy?

Why would they lose energy? Things generally don't lose energy unless
something else acts to take it away -- e.g. friction.

> And if they lose
> energy are there any reasonable assumptions as to how much charge they
> originally possessed.
muser - 07 Jul 2006 04:43 GMT
> > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
>
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> > energy are there any reasonable assumptions as to how much charge they
> > originally possessed.

I gave an arbitrary figure for the eV. 1TeV would have been excessive.
These particles must come into contact with other celestial
bodies\particles where there will be loses in energy. Google searches
have prove fruitless on this topic.
PD - 07 Jul 2006 20:01 GMT
> > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> >
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> bodies\particles where there will be loses in energy. Google searches
> have prove fruitless on this topic.

OK, let me see if I have this right. You don't remember what you read,
so you made up a number rather than looking it up. You don't know
whether eV measures charge or energy. You assume that everything MUST
encounter celestial particles and lose energy in that process. Have you
considered reading something other than the internet?

PD
muser - 08 Jul 2006 09:54 GMT
> > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> encounter celestial particles and lose energy in that process. Have you
> considered reading something other than the internet?

If you can't answer the question why not ignore my post, simple!

> PD
muser - 08 Jul 2006 09:54 GMT
> > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> encounter celestial particles and lose energy in that process. Have you
> considered reading something other than the internet?

If you can't answer the question why not ignore my post, simple!

> PD
Phineas T Puddleduck - 08 Jul 2006 13:39 GMT
On 8/7/06 09:54, in article
1152348856.458582.11070@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "muser"
<charlie12345@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>> PD

You DON'T have a question

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PD - 08 Jul 2006 13:44 GMT
> > > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> If you can't answer the question why not ignore my post, simple!

That's why I responded to your post, to clarify your question. When I
found out that you had no idea what you were asking, I pointed that
out.

> > PD
muser - 08 Jul 2006 22:59 GMT
> > > > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> > > PD

This is actually what I was looking for. There is even a principle
backing what I wrote in my original post. Link
http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/cosray.html
PD - 09 Jul 2006 00:06 GMT
> > > > > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> backing what I wrote in my original post. Link
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/cosray.html

OK, so what's your question?

PD
muser - 09 Jul 2006 09:28 GMT
> > > > > > > > I read recently about the discovery of a particle with a 50eV charge
> > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> PD

It has been answered. I shouldn't have confused charge with energy,
replace charge with energy in my original post and there is the
question.
 
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