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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / September 2006Power from virual particles
Imagine 2 super-strong magnets in a vacuum chamber. They're polished to a mirror fininsh and mounted in a frame that allows them to be brought together without touching At some very close proximity, the magnetic force between them becomes so strong that virtual particle pairs in the gap are torn apart before they can recombine. Positively charged particles are drawn in one direction and negatively charged ones in the other. A wire connects the 2 magnets and an inline meter begins to measure a current. Plausible scenario? Have I just revolutionized the world? ;-) p.s. Obviously I'm not a physicist, just seemed like the best place to find the flaws in my theory... > Imagine 2 super-strong magnets in a vacuum chamber. They're polished to > a mirror fininsh and mounted in a frame that allows them to be brought [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > measure a current. Plausible scenario? Have I just revolutionized the > world? ;-) How do you connect wires to the space to use this "current"? ;-) The other problem is that in order to get the mag field strength high enough to even create e+e- pairs, you would have to use superconducting electromagnets (never mind that we aren't even close to B_critical yet with current technology) and the energy you get out will be less than the energy you have to put in. FrediFizzx Quantum Vacuum Charge papers; http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf or postscript http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110 http://www.vacuum-physics.com > How do you connect wires to the space to use this "current"? ;-) The > other problem is that in order to get the mag field strength high enough > to even create e+e- pairs, you would have to use superconducting > electromagnets (never mind that we aren't even close to B_critical yet > with current technology) and the energy you get out will be less than > the energy you have to put in. -The wires would be connected to the magnets themselves like the terminals of a battery with the gap in between as the 'battery'. As the particles hit them, each would acquire a charge(opposing). Think of it like an old 'soupcan telephone' with the string as the wire and the 2 soup cans lying very close facing each other. As far as the magnets, I'd envisioned them being natural, not electromagnets, which would defeat the purpose. Something like a steel-jacketed neodymium-iron-born supermagnet. Considering a D-cell sized one is dangerously strong, one of a larger size like a coffee can or even a 55-gallon drum might do the trick. I also envisoned the magnets as cone-shaped with the smaller ends facing - that would raise the field intensity, wouldn't it? Obviously I don't know the field strength need to create virtual particle pairs, or if the ability to create it is within current technology. Just a thought experiment. thx for your input! Oh yeah, the other problem would be that the facing ends of the magnets, being bombarded with antiparticles, would over time be eaten away, how fast I don't know. They'd have to be replaced regularly as well as the whole assembly shielded from any harmful radiation produced. (gamma/x-rays?) > > How do you connect wires to the space to use this "current"? ;-) The > > other problem is that in order to get the mag field strength high enough [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > particle pairs, or if the ability to create it is within current > technology. Just a thought experiment. To just start producing e+e- pairs the theoretical critical field strength is about, m_e^2*c^2/(e*hbar) ~= 1.1*10^10 tesla Where m_e is electron or positron mass, c is speed of light, e is positron charge, hbar is Planck's rationalized constant. That is about 11 billion tesla. Guess what the best supercon magnets can do? No permanent magnet is ever going to produce a field strength that high. FrediFizzx Quantum Vacuum Charge papers; http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf or postscript http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110 http://www.vacuum-physics.com |
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