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Spin 1/2 Baryons Question?

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Jim King - 02 Dec 2006 18:18 GMT
Hello,

Could someone please give me an explanation for the fact that spin 1/2
Baryons in the octet
cannot consist of three quarks of the same flavor as the Delta++ for
example.

THX
Jim.
Autymn D. C. - 03 Dec 2006 13:14 GMT
> Could someone please give me an explanation for the fact that spin 1/2
> Baryons in the octet
> cannot consist of three quarks of the same flavor as the Delta++ for
> example.

The spin of u is +1/2, so three of them make +3/2.  Alike quarks repel,
so they don't orbit withwise to make +.5+.5-.5.  Besides, the Deltas
decay into a nucle?n (1/2) and a pi?n (1), so a Delta is not a
nucle?n by definition.

-Aut
Meir Achuz - 06 Dec 2006 15:26 GMT
Jim King Wrote:
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> THX
> Jim.
The three fermion quarks in a baryon are in a completely antisymmetri
state with respect to color.  The Pauli principle then requires tha
the spin-space wave function be completely symmetric with respect t
quark interchange for three identical u quarks.  The assumption is mad
that the spatial wave function is completely symmetric and has n
internal or total orbital angular momentum.  This means that the spi
state for the three u quarks must be completely symmetric under quar
interchange, and the quark spins must add up to the spin of th
baryon.
The spin state for 1/2+1/2+1/2=3/2 is completely symmetric an
corresponds to the Delta++.
The spin state for 1/2+1/2+1/2=1/2 has mixed symmetry, and so canno
exist for three u quarks

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Meir Achuz
Jim King - 06 Dec 2006 19:38 GMT
Thank You Meir,

But why cant the Baryon spin state for quark flavors (u,u,u) be this
symmetric combination.
(++-) + (+-+) + (-++)
?

> Jim King Wrote:
>> Hello,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> The spin state for 1/2+1/2+1/2=1/2 has mixed symmetry, and so cannot
> exist for three u quarks.
Autymn D. C. - 06 Dec 2006 23:34 GMT
because it's not?
 
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