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"How Does Light 'Know' How Fast to Travel?"

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Teg - 27 Dec 2006 22:20 GMT
"How Does Light 'Know' How Fast to Travel?"

    One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of
light is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the
language of physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us
consider an example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards
Earth. On the rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so
that, at the instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same
distance from Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along
the route, test stations observe the passage of the signals and report that
the signals pass each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the
requirements of Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals
only in their frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..)

    This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves
propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air.
The velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of
propagation of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of
the sound of a gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the
velocity of the bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty,
however, if we regard the photons which makeup the radio wave as particles
which are emitted from the source and travel ballistically to the target.
Such would seem to be the concept of the propagation of light when one
considers the apparent banishment of the Aether following the acceptance of
Special Relativity. If there is no medium, then the observably same velocity
of the two radio waves
could only occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its
velocity with respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity
of its transmitted signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together.

    The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem
if one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a
medium (e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to
require that some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in
physical processes is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the
existence of the classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true
since the Aether has been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has
never been shown to be non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the
fact that physicists have jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone
conclusion. Dr. Einstein did warn that the non-existence of the Aether had
not been proven, what had been proven was that it was not necessary for
computations of relativistic effects.

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Hawkwind - 28 Dec 2006 14:54 GMT
One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the picture
which is created by the
refelection of light on a mirror plane is mirror-inverted. The question
is, what's the source of the mirror's knowledge about where's left and
where's right.

Obviously, some magic is required to explain this effect. We
stronglyrecommend to question the existence of mirrors. After all,
physics has to be based on realistic facts instead of magic.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to consult our page
"THE MIRROR HOAX".

The material at the Website has been posted continuously for a long
time. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE
MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by
individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without
questioning it.

So please consider the option to dispose of your mirrors.
Tom Roberts - 29 Dec 2006 17:47 GMT
>     One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the picture
> which is created by the
> refelection of light on a mirror plane is mirror-inverted. The question
> is, what's the source of the mirror's knowledge about where's left and
> where's right.

You are confused. The image in a mirror is not inverted "left-right",
but rather front-back. And "knowledge" of that comes from the plane of
the mirror and its relationship to the sources of the image.

Humans, when looking at themselves in a mirror, INTERPRET the image of
their right hand as being the left hand of an "image person", because
this is common experience of the hands of other people. This is not what
actually happens: for a mirror in the north-south-up-down plane, the
image of your south hand is on the south -- NOT inverted left-right. If
you extend your arm toward the mirror while standing to the west of the
mirror, your real hand is to the east of your shoulder, but the image of
your hand is to the west of the image of your shoulder -- inverted
front-back.

> After all,
> physics has to be based on realistic facts instead of magic.

This is not "magic", this is lack of understanding on your part.

Tom Roberts
Hawkwind - 29 Dec 2006 19:49 GMT
Tom Roberts schrieb:

> >     One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the picture
> > which is created by the
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>
> This is not "magic", this is lack of understanding on your part.

Tom, you have missed the irony in my posting: it had been meant as a
sarcastic reply to the original post of this thread "how does light
know how fast ... "

May be, this was my fault. English isn't my mother tongue, and to write
ironic posts in a foreign language is always a risk.

Regards,
Hawkwind

> Tom Roberts
 
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