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Why is the Weinberg angle an angle?

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francoisbelfort@yahoo.fr - 05 Jun 2007 20:49 GMT
Can somebody explain in simple words
why the electroweak unification is described by an
ANGLE? What is the geometrical representation
where this angle appears? (Or are there several of them?)

Thank you in advance!

Francois
Dallas Kennedy - 05 Jun 2007 21:18 GMT
First, it's not the Weinberg angle.  It's the "weak mixing angle" and was
first defined by Glashow in 1961.

Second, it's defined as an acute angle of a right triangle whose sides are
the SU(2)_weak,L gauge coupling "g" and the U(1)_hypercharge gauge coupling
"g'".

                                            |
                                            |  g'
              theta_W                 |
             ---------------------
                            g

The weak mixing angle theta_W is defined by: tan(theta_W) = g' / g.  So it
is angle.

Standard modern treatments of gauge theories and particle physics discuss
these points.  See also the Review of Particle Physics 2006.

> Can somebody explain in simple words
> why the electroweak unification is described by an
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>
> Francois
francoisbelfort@yahoo.fr - 06 Jun 2007 06:19 GMT
> First, it's not the Weinberg angle.  It's the "weak mixing angle" and was
> first defined by Glashow in 1961.
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> Standard modern treatments of gauge theories and particle physics discuss
> these points.  See also the Review of Particle Physics 2006.

Hmm. One could define an angle for any two positive quantities g`and g
in this way.
So it does not need to be an angle at all, in the end? Or is there
another reason
that the ratio g'/g is interpreted as the tan of an angle?
(For example, why are g' and g drawn on orthogonal axes? Is there a
reason for this?)

I am just trying to understand - I hope this does not sound obnoxious.

Francois
PD - 06 Jun 2007 20:02 GMT
On Jun 6, 12:19 am, francoisbelf...@yahoo.fr wrote:

> > First, it's not the Weinberg angle.  It's the "weak mixing angle" and was
> > first defined by Glashow in 1961.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Francois

It's not. The mixing matrix is a unitary matrix, and a unitary matrix
can always be represented using an angle, whether that angle is a real
angle or not. It's just shorthand.

Lorentz boosts look like angular rotations, too, almost. Enough to
call give the angle a name: rapidity.

PD
Autymn D. C. - 07 Jun 2007 11:24 GMT
> It's not. The mixing matrix is a unitary matrix, and a unitary matrix
> can always be represented using an angle, whether that angle is a real
> angle or not. It's just shorthand.
>
> Lorentz boosts look like angular rotations, too, almost. Enough to
> call give the angle a name: rapidity.

Angula (Croocks) are foolish.  Use a damned fraction, say, in floating
decimal: .07983 or .31932*.25.
Autymn D. C. - 07 Jun 2007 11:29 GMT
> > It's not. The mixing matrix is a unitary matrix, and a unitary matrix
> > can always be represented using an angle, whether that angle is a real
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Angula (Croocks) are foolish.  Use a damned fraction, say, in floating
> decimal: .07983 or .31932*.25.

Oh yeah, ratios are best: .54836.
 
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