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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / September 2007



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PuzzledOldMan@aol.com - 06 Sep 2007 02:33 GMT
Is it possible that photons are simply spinning combinations of one
electron and one positron?
FrediFizzx - 06 Sep 2007 03:10 GMT
> Is it possible that photons are simply spinning combinations of one
> electron and one positron?

No.  Photons don't have an electric dipole moment.

In a more speculative viewpoint of the quantum "vacuum" as a
relativistic medium, photons could be "wavicles" of _bound_ charge
however.

Best,

Fred Diether
Moderator  sci.physics.foundations
PuzzledOldMan@aol.com - 07 Sep 2007 21:38 GMT
> "PuzzledOld...@aol.com" <J...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Fred Diether
> Moderator  sci.physics.foundations

For Fred Diether,

  Many thanks for your reply to my question.  But I'm still somewhat
puzzled.  Don't electrons and positrons sometimes come together to
form photons and don't photons sometimes break up to form electrons
and positrons, which appear to have both mass and charge?


Puzzled Old Man
FrediFizzx - 08 Sep 2007 02:56 GMT
>> "PuzzledOld...@aol.com" <J...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> relativistic medium, photons could be "wavicles" of _bound_ charge
>> however.

>   Many thanks for your reply to my question.  But I'm still somewhat
> puzzled.  Don't electrons and positrons sometimes come together to
> form photons and don't photons sometimes break up to form electrons
> and positrons, which appear to have both mass and charge?

If you are talking about electron-positron annihilation, then there are
always two or more photons created.  And it takes at least two photons
to create an electron and positron from the quantum "vacuum".  Now, we
are talking about "real" particles here.  With virtual particles, things
are a bit different.  QED has it that a photon has a probability to be a
virtual electron-positron pair some of the time.  I suspect the
probability is higher with photons of greater energy.

Best,

Fred Diether
Moderator  sci.physics.foundations
 
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