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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / November 2007particle families
Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were applies to bosons, what would the families be? The electron, electron neutrino, up quark and down quark are all in family one, these being typical matter particles. My guess is that the photon and gluon would also be in this family, since they are involved with the ordinary matter particles. Does that seem sensible? What about the W^-, W^+, Z^0 and higgs boson? > Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > matter particles. Does that seem sensible? What about the W^-, W^+, > Z^0 and higgs boson? The generations differ in W\0 and B bos?ns, which are massive neutral hypercharge and el?ctric carriers; W\? is a transition between asummetric quark families; Z\0 is a W-compound and can oscillare between generations. Generation-specific bos?ns would be mes?ns--they need quark content--pi?ns, ?tas, hros; ka?ns, psis; Ds; Bs. -Aut > Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > matter particles. Does that seem sensible? What about the W^-, W^+, > Z^0 and higgs boson? ------------------------ W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! (to put it mildly !! ) now about the families or generations of paticles that ahve similar properties except mass see the idea of 'chain of orbitals' ATB Y.Porat ---------------------------------- > On Nov 4, 11:13 pm, Martin <mgc...@comcast.net> wrote:> Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Y.Porat > ---------------------------------- OK. I'll look into that. Thanks. > W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! > (to put it mildly !! ) Where's your proof? Show me a cloud track and tell what's at the forks. > W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! > (to put it mildly !! ) Where's your proof? Show me a cloud track and tell me what's at the forks. > > W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! > > (to put it mildly !! ) > > Where's your proof? Show me a cloud track and tell me what's at the > forks. --------------------- where is *your Prof** that they exist *in places they are alleged to be **?? until now it was created in a huge accelerator with the probability of one to a few billions!! (:-) in such a probability you could find your father in law there as well (:-) 2 no mass no real physics even not for afraction of a second !! that criterion of no mass no real physics is going in future to be a corner stone in physics and ..... save billions of $ human resources and invaluable waist of time --- on nonsense physics ATB Y.Porat ----------------------------------- > > > W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! > > > (to put it mildly !! ) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > in such a probability you could find your father in law > there as well (:-) No father-in-law. Why don't you read the articula about the W boson, and tell me why they know its mass, width, lifetime, and job in leptonic decays? > 2 > no mass no real physics even not for afraction of a second !! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > save billions of $ human resources > and invaluable waist of time --- as opposed to a hip of time > On Nov 4, 11:13 pm, Martin <mgc...@comcast.net> wrote:> Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > W bosons and higgs bosons are fairy tailes! > (to put it mildly !! ) But physics is fairy tales or more fantastic than any fairy tales. In fact, physics is more bizarre than any fairy tales, science ficiton, fantasy, magick, etc. roll in one. In the Many Worlds in qm and superstrings. All fairy tales story can exist and true (like Snow White & 7 Dwarfs, etc.) amidst the infinity of combination of possible worlds. teni > now about the families or generations of paticles > that ahve similar properties except mass [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Y.Porat > ---------------------------------- On Nov 7, 2:06 pm, Tenifer (like Snow White & 7 Dwarfs, etc.) amidst the infinity > of combination of possible worlds. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ------------ i didnt understand do you beleive in the w Boson etc as real physics or not ?? Y.Porat ---------------------- > On Nov 7, 2:06 pm, Tenifer (like Snow White & 7 Dwarfs, etc.) amidst > the infinity [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Treat the W boson as like spells. Although physicists won't tell you directly. W boson work like spells. For example. It can magically change "strange quark" to "up quark". Physicists don't know how it changes it. They only knows it happens. As I told you. Real physics is like fairy tale, magick, etc. but most of the time only the mathematics is being emphasized "shut up and calculate" attitude. Get it? Teni > > On Nov 7, 2:06 pm, Tenifer (like Snow White & 7 Dwarfs, etc.) amidst > > the infinity [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ---------------- yes instead of shut up and prove it by experiment and right interpretation of that experiment !!!... and that is crime by crooks -- against physics !! too serious to be tolerated !! ATB Y.Porat ------------------- > Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > matter particles. Does that seem sensible? What about the W^-, W^+, > Z^0 and higgs boson? Doesn't quite work that way. For one thing, we don't know why there are three generations of fermions (quarks and leptons). We do know why there are as many bosons as there are. The fermions have several properties, and some of those properties can be called different kinds of "charge". There's electromagnetic charge, strong charge (sometimes called "color"), weak charge (sometimes called "hypercharge") and gravitational charge (sometimes called "mass"). The fermions can have more than one kind of charge. Neutrinos, for example, have only weak and gravitational charge. Electrons and muons have weak, gravitational, and electromagnetic charge. Quarks have all four kinds of charge. Those charges determine how they interact, and the bosons mediate those interactions. For example, electrons and muons can radiate, absorb, or swap both photons (electromagnetic bosons) and W and Zs (weak bosons). PD > > Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > PD A bit of an education. Thanks. > For one thing, we don't know why there are three generations of > fermions (quarks and leptons). We do know why there are as many bosons > as there are. How do you know you don't know? http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+angular-and-linear Generation two breaks/splits these quarkly orbitals intom new energy levels for both parameters. Generation three does the same but stores more as a quark-gl?on is?mer, real rather than two's virtual, I think. > The fermions have several properties, and some of those properties can > be called different kinds of "charge". There's electromagnetic charge, > strong charge (sometimes called "color"), weak charge (sometimes > called "hypercharge") and gravitational charge (sometimes called > "mass"). The fermions can have more than one kind of charge. Your names are all wrong: http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+New-Model. -Aut > > For one thing, we don't know why there are three generations of > > fermions (quarks and leptons). We do know why there are as many bosons [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > levels for both parameters. Generation three does the same but stores > more as a quark-gl?on is?mer, real rather than two's virtual, I think. Here are the el?ctric anal?gs: singlet longbond; singlet withbond, triplet longbond; triplet withbond; excited triplet. This explains why top doesn't make quark compounds. Note thas charm is yae under a glueball's mass, and bot is yae under twofold the tensoral glueball's mass: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/exotic_meson. Likewise, strange is yae under a pi?n's mass, and straddels the mu?n's mass. Top is under twofold the Z\0's mass, and over twofold W\?'s mass. Standard Model's quark model is slihtly wrong: u c t (t') d s b (b'). Instead, they should show a multiplicital ladder, where other quarks are merely metam?nimiac (transstabil-Scientists write "metastable", but they're illiterate retards.) gluonic exciplices of the down quark: p C t v 'd' 's' 'b' u. Therefore, each hihher state is likened tom el?ctronic shells K, 'K', L, 'L', etc.; their new skema would be neutral transitions of the same one quark: q: d|p|s|C|b|t|u|v|w|etc. Thus, the generational model is a artefact of trend-whirl ("spin- orbit") copulund ("coupling") in gluonic backgrounds. Huperlept?ns such as mu?ns and tau?ns don't belong in the same family as el?ctr?ns, but in the [unificate] el?ctrocoloral family, which would be listed between headings l and q, near l, whereas the heavier quarks would also be between, near q. Thus: q l dp e sC bt uv wx. w and x are leptoquarks. As these are limbs of ladders, ye can see thas each step is not a generation but a rung. (I also know thas the neutrino is a composite pi?n-el?ctr?n atom. One can back-engineer the neutr?n's decay formula to find thim.) -Aut supergenium! > > For one thing, we don't know why there are three generations of > > fermions (quarks and leptons). We do know why there are as many bosons [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > levels for both parameters. Generation three does the same but stores > more as a quark-gl?on is?mer, real rather than two's virtual, I think. Here are the el?ctric anal?gs: singlet longbond; singlet withbond, triplet longbond; triplet withbond; excited triplet. This explains why top doesn't make quark compounds. Note thas charm is yae under a glueball's mass, and bot is yae under twofold the tensoral glueball's mass: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/exotic_meson. Likewise, strange is yae under a pi?n's mass, and straddels the mu?n's mass. Top is under twofold the Z\0's mass, and over twofold W\?'s mass. Standard Model's quark model is slihtly wrong: u c t (t') d s b (b'). Instead, they should show a multiplicital ladder, where other quarks are merely metam?nimiac (transstabil-Scientists write "metastable", but they're illiterate retards.) gluonic exciplices of the down quark: p C t v 'd' 's' 'b' u. Therefore, each hihher state is likened tom el?ctronic shells K, 'K', L, 'L', etc.; their new skema would be neutral transitions of the same one quark: q: d|p|s|C|b|t|u|v|w|etc. Thus, the generational model is a artefact of trend-whirl ("spin- orbit") copulund ("coupling") in gluonic backgrounds. Huperlept?ns such as mu?ns and tau?ns don't belong in the same family as el?ctr?ns, but in the [unificate] el?ctrocoloral family, which would be listed between headings l and q, near l, whereas the heavier quarks would also be between, near q. Thus: q l dp e sC mu bt tau uvupsil?n wx. w and x are leptoquarks. As these are limbs of ladders, ye can see thas each step is not a generation but a rung. (I also know thas the neutrino is a composite pi?n-el?ctr?n atom. One can back-engineer the neutr?n's decay formula to find thim.) -Aut supergenium! > q l > dp e > sC mu > bt tau > uvupsil?n > wx. This would look better: q l dp epsil?n sC mu bt tau uvupsil?n wx. > > Hey folks, give me a little help with something. Leptons and quarks > > are said to come in three "families" or "generations." If this were [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > PD ------------------- you dont have any experimental prof that Bosons mediate anything you found them only in a huge accelarator and only there all that mediating story for particles is a nice fairy taile !!! 9on papers only ) Y.Porat -------------------------------- |
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