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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Particle Physics / December 2007



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Gert Baars - 26 Nov 2007 19:57 GMT
If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
of phase, then do they cancel out? and if so does energy dissapear?
Autymn D. C. - 28 Nov 2007 23:00 GMT
> If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
> of phase, then do they cancel out? and if so does energy dissapear?
disappear

Why would there be energy there first?
Gert Baars - 29 Nov 2007 20:33 GMT
>> If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
>> and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
>> of phase, then do they cancel out? and if so does energy dissapear?
> disappear
>
> Why would there be energy there first?

E=hv
Autymn D. C. - 07 Dec 2007 00:16 GMT
> >> If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> >> and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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>
> E=hv

0 = h0
PD - 07 Dec 2007 23:11 GMT
> If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
> of phase, then do they cancel out? and if so does energy dissapear?

Yes, they cancel out. That's what an AR coating on eyeglasses does:
produces two beams of light in the same path and in the same direction
and of the same frequency and 180 degrees out of phase. And it will
generally cost you about $20 to have that applied to your glasses.

No, the energy does not disappear. It goes someplace else other than
the light beam in that path in that direction. (In the case of AR
coatings, where do you suppose that goes, and then why is that
useful?)

PD
Y.Porat - 09 Dec 2007 12:21 GMT
> > If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> > and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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>
> PD

yes the above -  does     not disapear
one of the basics of physics
is conservation of energy
so       the satrt point to   search  is
*to what kind of another energy it was transformed*
my guess is
heat waves  (with a completely different wave lenght)

ATB
Y.Porat
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PD - 09 Dec 2007 21:37 GMT
> > > If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> > > and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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> so       the satrt point to   search  is
> *to what kind of another energy it was transformed*

OK, so far.

> my guess is
> heat waves  (with a completely different wave lenght)

Not with eyeglasses, no.

> ATB
> Y.Porat
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Y.Porat - 10 Dec 2007 07:28 GMT
> > > > If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> > > > and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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so where does the energy in eyeglasses 'disapear'?

Y.Porat
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PD - 10 Dec 2007 10:08 GMT
> > > > > If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> > > > > and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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> Y.Porat
> -----------------------------------

It doesn't disappear. The transmission coefficient through the glasses
improves. That's that an AR coating does. It's a simple technology
used the world wide.

PD
Y.Porat - 10 Dec 2007 12:36 GMT
> > > > > > If 2 beams of light are in the same path and in the same direction
> > > > > > and of the same frequency and seen as a wave they are 180deg out
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so ??

is the imput  energy of light coming to  the coating
is **exactly** the output energy that cames out ??
no losses ??
and if  some losses where do they go ??

TIA
Y.Porat
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