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The Paradox of Zeno

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Etunim12 - 12 Dec 2003 14:26 GMT
The Paradox of Zeno
   
    The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
required. One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has
been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a target
at a distance, L, and the time of flight is divided into intervals. In the
first interval, the arrow covers half of the distance to the target and, in
each succeeding interval of time, it covers half of the remaining distance.
Under the line of reasoning presented, the arrow never reaches the target
because, after each successive interval of time, one half of the distance to
the target that existed at the beginning of the interval remains.

    The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken seriously
by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been recognized as a form
of trickery. If one accepts that in each successive interval of time the arrow
traveled half of the remaining distance to the target, he must also accept that
each of those successive intervals of time is half of the duration of the
interval which preceded it. As a result, under the Paradox of Zeno, not only
does the arrow never reach the target, the elapsed time of its flight never
reaches the time, T, when the arrow would reach the target.

    There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a
cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior to
the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe that the
arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES
NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET
WHEN IT SHOULD.

    To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which
requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution
should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental capacity
of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process.

    The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm .
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HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST
BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.

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alejandro.rivero - 18 Dec 2003 16:11 GMT
> The Paradox of Zeno
>      
>      The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
> that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
> techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
> required.

May I mention, again, that classical mechanics does not describe real
motion?  Say otherwise, if you accept the Calculus answer to Zeno,
then you should explain why particles do not actually follow the laws
of Classical Mechanics.
Kito - 23 Dec 2003 15:51 GMT
Technically, you're not allowing the arrow to reach its target.
Obviously you can proceed all the way till your head cracks, and the
arrow will be twice as near as it was the previous time but not reach
the target ever. However realistically if you continue to subdivide
you will inevitable reach a stage where your instrumentation can no
longer measure the distance or the time between the points that are
too close to each other. Even if you continue to improve your
equipment, sooner or later, you will reach a point where subdivision
is completely impossible . Why? Quantum physics says so. Where the
distace between the two points is so small, heisenberg uncertainty
principle says there is no way you can further divide the distance
between arrow and target simply because you no longer know where it
is. If you're uncertain about the positio of the arow you cannot
divide the distance between it and a known point in space. TO find
distance you need 2 known points in space.
Kito - 23 Dec 2003 15:53 GMT
Technically, you're not allowing the arrow to reach its target.
Obviously you can proceed all the way till your head cracks, and the
arrow will be twice as near as it was the previous time but not reach
the target ever. However realistically if you continue to subdivide
you will inevitable reach a stage where your instrumentation can no
longer measure the distance or the time between the points that are
too close to each other. Even if you continue to improve your
equipment, sooner or later, you will reach a point where subdivision
is completely impossible . Why? Quantum physics says so. Where the
distace between the two points is so small, heisenberg uncertainty
principle says there is no way you can further divide the distance
between arrow and target simply because you no longer know where it
is. If you're uncertain about the positio of the arow you cannot
divide the distance between it and a known point in space. TO find
distance you need 2 known points in space.

Hehehe, I only took one course on physical eletronics and know
basically the basics of quantum physics (Actualy i know JACK sh.t
about it). but i think it was a good try.

http://keithrozario.blogspot.com
 
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