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Relativity: The theory of Appearence of Motion

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BURT - 20 Jul 2008 22:39 GMT
Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
has nothing to do with the Sun moving. It is an appearence caused by
the Earth rotating.

The station only appears to come to the train. Only the train felt
weight by accelerating. Only the train had that new motion through
space towards the station.

Mitch Raemsch
gnehagarg@gmail.com - 21 Jul 2008 21:22 GMT
> Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
> appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
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> Mitch Raemsch

but question here is also that if station is also moving w.r.t to for
timebeing consider some which is rest...yet rest is n't there in
universe
if station is also moving w.r.t to at rest then there is n't chance of
station come to face train....
in that there is question to apperance 1st...
trin  & station condition is valid only on earth bcz what we see with
naked eyes sometimes that is not the case..
but when trin goes away train is n't visible to station...
and never sees station again...
bt in case of earth if earth goes away then there is sun visible to
even but to other part of earth..
in that case how we take example of train to solve problem of
appearance of sun & earth????????/
Triacon Tahedron - 21 Jul 2008 21:55 GMT
> Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
> appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
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> Mitch Raemsch

Burt

Allow me to rectify what you say

You consequently confuse acceleration with force

You dont need acceleration in order to motion. Speed is enough!

I believe that even at speed = 0, you still have motion if separate
events !

And definitely they must be separated, because you couldnt have any
speed between them

Thank you for audiance
Mitch Raemsch - 21 Jul 2008 22:18 GMT
> > Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
> > appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
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> You consequently confuse acceleration with force

NO. That is Einstein's Equivalence Principle.

Mitch Raemsch

> You dont need acceleration in order to motion. Speed is enough!
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> Thank you for audiance
Triacon Tahedron - 21 Jul 2008 22:22 GMT
On Jul 21, 11:18 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > > Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
> > > appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
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> Mitch Raemsch

No, that equivalate acceleration with gravity, which still is not a
force

You confuse a hammer with its weight !

> > You dont need acceleration in order to motion. Speed is enough!
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> > Thank you for audiance
Mitch Raemsch - 21 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
> On Jul 21, 11:18 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
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It is a force because there is more to it than just curvature.

Mitch Raemsch
Triacon Tahedron - 21 Jul 2008 22:54 GMT
On Jul 21, 11:50 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On Jul 21, 11:18 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> Mitch Raemsch

Who is a force!
Mitch Raemsch - 21 Jul 2008 23:35 GMT
> On Jul 21, 11:50 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
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Light is a unified force of EM energy.
Spirit of Truth - 25 Jul 2008 07:03 GMT
On Jul 21, 1:54 pm, Triacon Tahedron <ws...@royal.net> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 11:50 pm, Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com>
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>Light is a unified force of EM energy

YOU is the force, Burt.

:)

Spirit of Truth.
Spirit of Truth - 25 Jul 2008 06:57 GMT
> Acceleration creates new motion through space and that creates the
> appearence of movement around it. Take the Sun crossing the sky? That
> has nothing to do with the Sun moving. It is an appearence caused by
> the Earth rotating.
> The station only appears to come to the train. Only the train felt
> weight by accelerating.

There is something else. You could eat a hearty breakfast and go
fast nowhere.

>Only the train had that new motion through
> space towards the station.

What you are coming close to is the discussion of 'Causes'
which got lost in science since relativity.

:)

Spirit of Truth

> Mitch Raemsch
 
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