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mark_horn@sbcglobal.net - 28 Jan 2008 15:58 GMT
28-JAN-2008

Hi all -

Quick question:

At what point do we begin referring to velocities as relativistic?
Would, for example, 1% of light speed be considered relativistic?

Thanks,

mark jonathan horn
Arnold Neumaier - 28 Jan 2008 18:55 GMT
mark_horn@sbcglobal.net schrieb:

> At what point do we begin referring to velocities as relativistic?
> Would, for example, 1% of light speed be considered relativistic?

If you are interested in a relative accuracy of 10^-4 or below, yes.
Otherwise probably not.

Relativistic corrections tend to be of the order of (v/c)^2.

Arnold Neumaier
Uncle Al - 28 Jan 2008 19:05 GMT
> 28-JAN-2008
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> At what point do we begin referring to velocities as relativistic?
> Would, for example, 1% of light speed be considered relativistic?

When a body's relative velocity adds mass-energy approaching its rest
mass, that is relativistic beyond argument.  What relative velocity
deviates from Newtonian expectations by 1%?

1/sqrt[1-(v^2)/c^2)] = 1.01
sqrt[1-(v^2)/c^2)] = 0.990099
1-(v^2)/c^2) = 0.9803
(v^2)/c^2) = 0.01970
v/c = 0.14

At 14% of lightspeed you will deviate from Newton by 1%.  At 10% of
lightspeed you should start thinking "Special Relativity."

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Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply - 28 Jan 2008 19:05 GMT
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<a801130c-8659-40f1-9a21-719184f53dec@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
mark_horn@sbcglobal.net writes:

> At what point do we begin referring to velocities as relativistic?
> Would, for example, 1% of light speed be considered relativistic?

I don't think there is any standard definition.  Even if there were, it
wouldn't be of much use, because it depends on context.  If relativistic
calculations (or, if the relativistic effects are small, relativistic
"corrections"---perhaps not proper full-scale calculations, but rather
adding terms from a series expansion or whatever) are important for what
you are interested in---meaning that if you neglect them, you care about
the difference between the non-relativistic and relativistic
calculation---then the velocity is relativistic.  If not, it is not.  
This will depend both on the accuracy you are interested in and also on
what order in v/c the effect in question shows up.
 
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