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Redshift 10 Galaxies?

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Sam Wormley - 13 Jul 2007 07:05 GMT
Redshift 10 Galaxies?
  http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News

  12 Jul 07 - Stark et al. claim to have detected Lyman alpha emission
  from 6 candidate objects with redshifts between 8.5 and 10.2. These
  are very faint sources which have been magnified by the gravitational
  lensing of a foreground cluster of galaxies, and even then barely
  detected with very long exposures on the Keck telescopes. The
  negative image at right shows a near infrared image taken with the
  Hubble Space Telescope, and it is clear that whatever there is in the
  center of the circle is very faint. But when the light coming from
  the center of the circle is spread out into a spectrum using the
  NIRSPEC instrument built at UCLA there is an easily visible clump in
  the spectral image, shown at left. This is also a negative image, so
  the dark spot in the center of the circle is an emission line. This
  spectral line is at a wavelength of 1.355 microns, which is 11.1
  times longer than the rest wavelength of Lyman alpha, so if it really
  is Lyman alpha, the redshift of this source is 10.1. Using my
  cosmology calculator, one finds that the age of the Universe was 475
  million years when this galaxy emitted the light that we see. That
  light took 13.190 billion years to reach us, and the galaxy is now
  31.578 billion light years away from us due to the expansion of the
  Universe.

  One note of caution: a previous claimed redshift 10 galaxy based on
  the same kind of evidence was not confirmed.

  See: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0701279
Eric Gisse - 13 Jul 2007 08:10 GMT
[...]

I have been wondering when folks would start using gravitational
lensing for actual magnification and such.
Y.Porat - 13 Jul 2007 13:59 GMT
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>
> I have been wondering when folks would start using gravitational
> lensing for actual magnification and such.

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Hi disturbed morn pigg !!

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John C. Polasek - 26 Sep 2007 18:40 GMT
>Redshift 10 Galaxies?
>   http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
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>
>   See: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0701279
Would you please show how you derived the above ages, etc.? It sounds
like the galaxy was in a heck of a hurry to get 32Blyr away in
13.19Byr.
John Polasek
Sam Wormley - 27 Sep 2007 05:13 GMT
>> Redshift 10 Galaxies?
>>   http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
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>>
>>   See: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0701279

> Would you please show how you derived the above ages, etc.? It sounds
> like the galaxy was in a heck of a hurry to get 32Blyr away in
> 13.19Byr.
> John Polasek

  On http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
  put in z=10.1 click on General
Sam Wormley - 27 Sep 2007 05:23 GMT
>> Redshift 10 Galaxies?
>>   http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
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> 13.19Byr.
> John Polasek

  Here's what you need, John, the comoving radial distance,
    http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_02.htm#DH
John C. Polasek - 27 Sep 2007 20:22 GMT
>>> Redshift 10 Galaxies?
>>>   http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
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>   Here's what you need, John, the comoving radial distance,
>     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_02.htm#DH
Thanks a lot. I haven't got it all figured out yet. The calculator is
nifty; the equations are not so easy.
John Polasek
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Sep 2007 21:42 GMT
Sam  It makes more reality to go with my size of the universe in this
spacetime. It has the distance from the big bang as 22 billion LY   That
answers more hard question. When Iwas a kid and read my first astronomer
book in the Boston library. the universe was the size of the Milky Way.
It has grown in size a lot over the years  Bert
 
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