Spain approves installation of offshore wind farms
AFP
Friday, July 20, 2007
Madrid (AFP) - The government of Spain on Friday approved
legislation that will allow offshore wind parks to be set
up along the nation's vast coastline in an effort to boost
the use of renewable energy sources.
"This law will allow the installation for the first time of
electricity generators in the ocean," the economy ministry
said in a statement.
Spain, a leading producer of land-based wind energy, has
some 4,000 kilometres (2,500 miles) of coastline which draw
millions of sunseekers each year, helping to make it the
world's second most visited nation after France.
While more expensive than land-based wind farms, offshore
wind parks can take advantage of stronger, steadier coastal
breezes.
But critics fear offshore wind parks will blot the
landscape and hurt fishing.
To allay these concerns the government said offshore wind
farm projects will need clearance from the environment
ministry.
The government will also identify the best places where the
parks, which will be required to have a minimum size of at
least 50 megawatts, can be set up and interested firms will
then be allowed to reserve the area.
Spain, which along with Germany and Denmark, is among the
three biggest producers of wind power in the 27-nation
European Union, plans to triple the amount of energy it
derives from renewable sources by 2020.
The Netherlands opened its first major offshore wind farm
earlier this year and several similar projects are in the
works for Britain, Germany and the United States.
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harmony - 28 Jul 2007 21:00 GMT
seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
all that land then?
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Shadowland - 28 Jul 2007 21:17 GMT
> seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
> going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
> all that land then?
Why must we "do" anything with land ?
How about giving plants and animals undisturbed land to frolic upon.
What if somebody would just like to go camping in a land empty of
another human idiot or having to look at another one of humanities
ugly technological monstrosity.
"Do" ?!!
Nature is perfect...humanity "doing" upon nature is
criminal vandalism.
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 29 Jul 2007 00:21 GMT
In article <afNqi.17637$5y.8253@newsfe18.lga>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
> going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
> all that land then?
Golf courses? Muslim terrorist training camps? Both?
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Benj - 29 Jul 2007 07:06 GMT
> seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
> going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
> all that land then?
Say, do dead birds float? I'm wondering how they are going to gather
up all the dead migratory birds killed by the wind farm? On land it's
easy. Of course if you put little water wings on each bird that are
sort of like air bags that inflate when the bird gets whacked with a
propeller blade... With the proper design of the water currents under
the generators you might be able to easily wash all the dead birds
right into a waiting net!
Alex - 29 Jul 2007 12:01 GMT
> > seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
> > going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
> > all that land then?
> Say, do dead birds float? I'm wondering how they are going to gather
> up all the dead migratory birds killed by the wind farm? On land it's
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> the generators you might be able to easily wash all the dead birds
> right into a waiting net!
All three of them for an average sized wind farm?
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 30 Jul 2007 00:58 GMT
In article <1185689197.129722.256010@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> posted:
> > seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
> > going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do with
> > all that land then?
> Say, do dead birds float? I'm wondering how they are going to gather
> up all the dead migratory birds killed by the wind farm? On land it's
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> the generators you might be able to easily wash all the dead birds
> right into a waiting net!
They could scare away birds with a giant statue of an owl.
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Steve Spence - 30 Jul 2007 02:49 GMT
Of course it's been proven that radio towers kill more birds than wind
turbines, but hey, everyone enjoys a good strawman.

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>> > seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
>> > going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 Jul 2007 01:44 GMT
Or a good scarecrow.
But now wait for a "brilliant scientist" from sci.physics like Uncle Al to
come up with an idea that uses oil and coal to run fans to blow wind
on the wind farms.
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In article <1185689197.129722.256010@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> posted:
> Of course it's been proven that radio towers kill more birds than wind
> turbines, but hey, everyone enjoys a good strawman.
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>>>> seems like unnecessary expense doing it offshore. spain's population is
>>>> going to drop to half its current size in 20 years. what would they do
>>>> with
>>>> all that land then?
>>> Say, do dead birds float? I'm wondering how they are going to gather
>>> up all the dead migratory birds killed by the wind farm? On land it's
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>>> the generators you might be able to easily wash all the dead birds
>>> right into a waiting net!
Alex - 29 Jul 2007 12:04 GMT
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Maharaj) wrote:
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I would have thought that Spain is not ideal for offshore wind. The
Bay of Biscay / NE coast is a bit deep, and susceptible to storms. The
Mediterranean coast doesn't have very good wind potential. I'm not
sure about the South West. Plus, they have plenty of unpopulated
uplands.
Still, they may have some good sites for the odd Gigawatt.