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photons, phonons and perceptual frequencies

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N - 24 Aug 2007 19:29 GMT
Hi!

I've been doing some reading on visual perception and
complied a graph of frequencies & found some pretty
decent sines along the way. I was looking into wave
energy of percieved sound and sight, along the lines
of Erv Wilsons mathematical mapping (et al)

What I wanted to know was, where or if my compiled graph
of sine wave data significantly crossed any of the
standard measured wavelength activity of photons,
where and how.

I was also messing around with an old math book trying
to figure out how to calculate pi without a calculator
and stumbled upon a handy sequence of numerals.
Just out-of-the-hat, as ever more digits are found
in pi, is there any similar or notable expansion of
the 360 degrees of a circle?

tia :)

n
BradGuth - 24 Aug 2007 20:18 GMT
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You might want to ask of exactly when does a photon become a graviton,
and/or of when does a graviton become a photon.  Either way you'll get
lots of flak because you're not supposed to be smart enough to ask
such questions, much less capable of understanding or otherwise
appreciating whatever's the truth.
- Brad Guth
N - 24 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT
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Thanks,

Gravitons, hmm... newbie on that subject!!

A graviton is a magnetic field that hangs onto stuff
long enough for time to be measured by the decay of bond?

Perhaps an 'absolute' photon is a free wave of particles
(as measured during the period they/it were held in a
magnetic field?)

So an absolute - absolute photon would be fairly, hmm, well
difficult to spot if it wern't for its tenuousness or tenacity?,
Hmm? not doing very well am !! :(
a photon is also an absolute measurement to some. Can the
existance of an absolute photon be proved?

I was interested to read about the spin, I hav'nt calculated
mass yet...but I suppose rotation and the scattering of bits
and pieces of/by sub atomic detritus will give me an opportunity
to transcribe untold joys through sines      presently

:)

n
J.A. Legris - 24 Aug 2007 22:38 GMT
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Hi n,

My maths and physics textbooks have just never seemed to lend
themselves to poetic reinterpretation (McGraw-Hill, you know). Where
are you getting yours?

--
Joe
N - 24 Aug 2007 22:42 GMT
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Hang on a mo....I'll go have a look at the papyrus
N - 24 Aug 2007 22:56 GMT
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this was published in 1977 tho
BradGuth - 25 Aug 2007 06:11 GMT
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I'm not exactly sure what an "absolute photon" is.  Is it still 2D
quantum string like?

??? gravitons could certainly formulate into representing a magnetic
force, although perhaps they are just the smallest form of a photon,
way shorter than any hard gamma, and of there being lots of them
little suckers, including enough in sheer numbers in order to fully
and safely surround a black hole's core of antimatter.
- Brad Guth
N - 25 Aug 2007 11:31 GMT
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>I'm not exactly sure what an "absolute photon" is.  Is it still 2D
>quantum string like?

I take one to describe light in motion, the other to be a
description of its components or activity as stationary.
All together, I'm thinking they work like a line of cogs,
so if you grate the gears you get particles spinning off.
Thats 2D, so mass spin to me is a little bit complicated
as yet :/

>??? gravitons could certainly formulate into representing a magnetic
>force, although perhaps they are just the smallest form of a photon,
>way shorter than any hard gamma, and of there being lots of them
>little suckers, including enough in sheer numbers in order to fully
>and safely surround a black hole's core of antimatter.

I'm using stats of workaday visual spectrum of white light, and
until now it hadnt occurred to me that mass could be relative
to wavelength frequency, is that so? I imagined black holes
to be hot and dense, although I also take it condensed cooled
matter is generally less active.

Anyway, why do Physicists use colour terms when the
electromagnetic spectrum is way way bigger than might be
accommodated by the visual system?  Visually...theres a
low peak and plateau as the blue fades to black, as far as
I'm aware this is to do with physiology alone, although it is
loosely correspondent with red at the other end of the spectrum.
My sines cross briefly but unexpectedly at that point.
Anyway, time to make my breakfast!

Thanks :)

n
Don Stockbauer - 29 Aug 2007 22:08 GMT
Hi!

I've been doing some reading on visual perception and
complied a graph of frequencies & found some pretty
decent sines along the way. I was looking into wave
energy of percieved sound and sight, along the lines
of Erv Wilsons mathematical mapping (et al)

What I wanted to know was, where or if my compiled graph
of sine wave data significantly crossed any of the
standard measured wavelength activity of photons,
where and how.

I was also messing around with an old math book trying
to figure out how to calculate pi without a calculator
and stumbled upon a handy sequence of numerals.
Just out-of-the-hat, as ever more digits are found
in pi, is there any similar or notable expansion of
the 360 degrees of a circle?

tia :)

n

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No expansion of the 360 degrees of a circle with higher accuracies of
PI.  What the higher accuracy does for you is to let you calculate a
more accurate circumference when given the diameter.

I think I know who you are, based on your interest in colour and
screenname.  I hope you are doing well.  We all do what we can
imbedded in this gas of human molecules.
Y.Porat - 25 Aug 2007 06:37 GMT
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there are some known experts for your quaton

they are callsed the
Superdarters   !!
as far as i collected them untill now theit names are

an anomymous person who calles himself (rightly so )
Jekyle
Randy Poe
PD (Paul Daraper)
another anomymous  'All in Datas '

Bjeoren Feuerbacher
and sorry some others that i forgot  anyway
that if they like we can add them tothe list
anyone of them can explain to you
waht is the SUPERFART!

all of them are experts of mathematics
and they are convinced as you
that mathematics should be the leader of physics
and you can get some experimental data
and  EXTRAPOLATE IT
A AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE
and as far as mathematics can  allow you
2
honesy in physics does not count
as long as it i sagainst your private bussiness
and
in order of being a goos physicsit
it is enough to be a good personal politician
or a smarty lawyer talented born

Good luck
Y.Porat
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Don Stockbauer - 30 Aug 2007 14:06 GMT
Did you ever buy that house in Liverpool?
N - 30 Aug 2007 22:13 GMT
> Did you ever buy that house in Liverpool?

Did you ever get a grip of her in that barn?
Don Stockbauer - 31 Aug 2007 05:06 GMT
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> Did you ever get a grip of her in that barn?

More than a grip.

Hope you found someone in the real world.  You deserve that, you
really do, not just electrons on a screen.

I'll leave you alone from now on.
Y.Porat - 31 Aug 2007 04:55 GMT
> Did you ever buy that house in Liverpool?

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you dont need a house
you can use the internet

so go to your above friends (that probably belong to your
clan)
and ask them about thier   SUPERFART !!
(a photon with a frequancy of---
one cycle per 100 billion yers)
you can ask your Josef Goebeless as well
about it ....

Y.Porat
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