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Gravity: Force or Static Property

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dfnj2006 - 27 Nov 2007 01:30 GMT
Reality seems to always turn out to be much stranger than anything we
can imagine. Who would have thought that the evidence would show our
Universe is not only expanding, but accelerating.   It is just a
matter of time before more energy goes into accelerating the Universe
than actually exists in the Universe.  It hurts the brain.

If the Universe is expanding, then gravity may not be a static
property but a force that is generated by natural processes. And if it
is a force than can be generated then maybe as you increase gravity
between two objects they increase their acceleration away from each
other as in a sling shot effect over a straight line. It would be like
a sling shot effect where you tighten the string increasing the
acceleration.  Or if they are moving towards each other they
deaccelerate as gravity increases to point where they actually repel
each other. Otherwise if gravity did not act as a repellent then the
Universe would be a giant single clump of matter or at least slowing
down the expansion.

So my theory is if you can generate gravity then you can create an
anti-gravity device by increasing a gravity generator's power while an
object is in motion. And once you can create multiple gravity fields
pulsing with each other while physically attached then maybe you can
create a method of propulsion.  With such a craft you could make 100g
turns with the occupants inside feeling only 1g by using additional
compensators.

And once you can generate a gravity field you could cut your car's
weight to a fraction and get 500 miles to the gallon. So what is in
your country's national interests: Fighter planes capable of making
100g turns or gasoline being worthless?

Of course, the real trick is being able to generate gravity.  Any
ideas?

It's probably just wishful thinking so please don't attack my post.
I just like thinking about the possibility.
Sanders Kaufman - 27 Nov 2007 02:11 GMT
"dfnj2006" <dfnj2006@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5b353065-b11f-

> Of course, the real trick is being able to generate gravity.  Any
> ideas?

In a newtonian universe, the way to "generate gravity" is to create an
opposite and equal force.

> It's probably just wishful thinking so please don't attack my post.
> I just like thinking about the possibility.

Zat's what I joined this group for today - thinking about possibilities.
Uncle Al - 27 Nov 2007 03:25 GMT
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> So my theory is if you can generate gravity then you can create an
> anti-gravity device by increasing a gravity generator's power while an
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> turns with the occupants inside feeling only 1g by using additional
> compensators.
[snip remaining crap]

Idiot.

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Androcles - 27 Nov 2007 11:19 GMT
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Sure, anytime.

Open sewer with Schwartztord floating (River of sh.t) snipped.

 http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/optpic/brokpen.jpg
The pencil is broken. Don't like empirical observations, Schwartzshit?
Fuckhead.

Catch 22:
 http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
 http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img76.gif

"BTW, you f.ck-faced baboon, "(c+v) appears nowhere in the paper, nor
could it.   Hey Schwartzshit, you are an ineducable idiot.  Your high
school should be leveled and replaced by an abandoned bowling alley."

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Jeff☠Relf - 27 Nov 2007 03:57 GMT
I think of gravity as primordial momentum slowed by it's own spew.
The sun spews 4 mega tons per second, 3 mega tons of which are photons.
Sagittarious A* spews even more, no doubt.

Life is a byproduct of the spew
and the origins of gravity are far too primordial/causal to alter.
Sam Wormley - 27 Nov 2007 05:04 GMT
> Reality seems to always turn out to be much stranger than anything we
> can imagine. Who would have thought that the evidence would show our
> Universe is not only expanding, but accelerating.   It is just a
> matter of time before more energy goes into accelerating the Universe
> than actually exists in the Universe.  

  Better do some self-education, bubba!
G. L. Bradford - 30 Nov 2007 10:29 GMT
Neither space nor time, nor the unity spacetime, is an absolute. 'c', the
constant, can take in a very small amount, or a very large amount, of
territory. One kilometer may measure the same in each frame of A and B, but
B's (or A's) frame might encompass a million to billion A (or B) frames. A
traveler in intergalactic space is relative to the Milky Way galaxy rather
than relative to the planet Earth. His frame of reference encompasses a
million to billion planets of which Earth is just one lost among them all:
its individual spacetime meaningless in the context of the larger galactic
OBJECT frame.

 This traveler isn't traveling the horizontal universe in having moved
vertically from ground Earth to interplanetary space, to interstellar space,
to intergalactic space, shrinking a universe below and/or behind him as he
expands up in vertical scale of spacetime relativity. He can do an expansion
of the external universe in reversing his travel (his acceleration) back to
arrive back on ground Earth.

 Each level (up and down) of verticality achieved by the traveler is
achieved as accelerating expansion of his own [most local] universe. The
external more non-local universe either expands or shrinks around the
traveler depending upon his, hers, or its, vertical direction and
relativity, and propulsive way of handling spacetime (way of handling the
locally relevent gravitational fields (planetary, solar systemic, galactic,
whatever the flat horizontal level up or down, or curvature out or in, in
the vertical scale)).

 The universal scaling -- potentially to infinity up and down in
stereotypical multiverse -- is static. Anything traversing that vertical
scale LOCALLY, though, would argue the point quite dynamically (quite
forcefully)!

GLB
 
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