TOSHIBA'S HOME NUCLEAR REACTOR
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 26 Dec 2007 01:57 GMT Toshiba's Home Nuclear Reactor
By Rob Beschizza December 18, 2007
If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b) trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.
Twenty foot long by six foot wide, the reactors produce 200kW of energy and run themselves: the entire thing is manufactured with the fuel within, and when it runs out, they can just send a truck to pick it up.
"Unlike traditional nuclear reactors the new micro reactor uses no control rods to initiate the reaction. The new revolutionary technology uses reservoirs of liquid lithium-6, an isotope that is effective at absorbing neutrons. The Lithium-6 reservoirs are connected to a vertical tube that fits into the reactor core. The whole whole process is self sustaining and can last for up to 40 years, producing electricity for only 5 cents per kilowatt hour, about half the cost of grid energy."
Waste, you say? Throw it in a mile-deep pit in New Mexico, or something.
Unfortunately, with the way nukes have been run, it's unlikely they'll be replacing every neighborhood's electricity substation with one of these any time soon. It's claimed there are buyers in Japan and Europe. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, I recall, makes something similar, but bigger.
Toshiba Builds 100x Smaller Micro Nuclear Reactor [Nextenergynews via Gizmodo]
More at: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/toshibas-home-n.html
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V-for-Vendicar - 26 Dec 2007 08:40 GMT > If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b) > trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small > enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a > slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis. Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the earth, that will never be the case.
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 26 Dec 2007 09:48 GMT In article <psocj.4690$fr2.1252@read2.cgocable.net>, "V-for-Vendicar" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> posted:
> www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted: > >> If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b) >> trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small >> enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a >> slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.
> Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the > earth, that will never be the case. Wouldn't it be better to attack conservatism, if you don't like it, rather than to "exterminate" (your word) conservatives?
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Peder B. Pels - 26 Dec 2007 20:23 GMT > > If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b) > > trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the > earth, that will never be the case. Vendicar, or whatever you go for in the real world, have you ever given thought to how many people you push away with your vitrilic style of debate? Do you even care?
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 Dec 2007 19:48 GMT In article <1i9qzdh.1ex2kg0el03xaN%peter@nospamplease.dk>, peter@nospamplease.dk (Peder B. Pels) posted:
> > www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted: > > > > > > If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b) > > > trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small > > > enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a > > > slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.
> > Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the > > earth, that will never be the case.
> Vendicar, or whatever you go for in the real world, have you ever given > thought to how many people you push away with your vitrilic style of > debate? Do you even care? The vitriol isn't working on at least a few posters, is it! Besides, the vitriol appears to be directed at someone in the White House and his followers.
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Josef Matz - 26 Dec 2007 14:12 GMT Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ?
Why do they not do that if so good ?
> Toshiba's Home Nuclear Reactor > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > copyright owner. hanson - 26 Dec 2007 15:47 GMT Yo, Seppl, I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts when I look at the author's name of "Rob Beschizza",.... ein "Beschissener Raeuber" who was cited by an American expatriate with an assumed Indian name & a questionable "Dr" ahahahaha... ahahahanson
> Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ? > [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] >> your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the >> copyright owner. daestrom - 26 Dec 2007 19:47 GMT > Yo, Seppl, > I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts > when I look at the author's name of "Rob Beschizza",.... > ein "Beschissener Raeuber" who was cited by an American > expatriate with an assumed Indian name & a questionable "Dr" > ahahahaha... ahahahanson There are a lot of blogs, posts, and 'news stories' about this reactor, but when you track them all down, they all use just one reference from nextenergynews.com. Toshiba Nuclear's web site doesn't have anything about it and there are no other credible 'news stories' that independently report this. I'm thinking its just some wishful thinking by a less-than-reputable media outlet that has been picked up by a lot of others.
daestrom
Jonathan Kirwan - 26 Dec 2007 20:33 GMT ><snip> >I'm thinking its just some wishful thinking by a less-than-reputable >media outlet that has been picked up by a lot of others. I was similarly worried upon trying to track it down, as well.
But it appears to be based on a RAPID (Refuelling by All Pins, Integral Design) concept that, earlier on and for a couple of years between 1999 and 2001, the Japan Atomic Energy Agency was supporting -- I believe mostly for the idea of a lunar mission. The funding, I think, was transferred in 2002 to the Central Research Institute of Electric Power Industry. I don't believe CRIEPI is worrying as much about lunar missions. Mitsubishi Research Institute in Japan leads the project, I think.
Given that it has been funded for a while and that the idea has been transferred to CRIEPI, it's not too far-fetched to imagine that enough time and funding for the key technologies essential for the RAPID design (the Lithium expansion, injection and release modules, for example) have brought them close to commercial realization.
The existing specifications are documented in a January 2007 IAEA report and show a 10MWt/1MWe specification, though, which differs somewhat from the 5MWt/200kWe figure I've seen in a few news blurbs I'm sure you've seen, too. But the IAEA report was from January and probably carried information dating back to early 2006, so this kind of figure isn't so incongruent as to surprise me. It has a lower electrical output, perhaps targeted towards a particular early market they envision better now.
I expect the actual details to continue to evolve some, but it looks real enough. Whether it becomes a commercial reality on Earth is another question, of course. Perhaps that's the wishful thinking part of it.
Jon
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 Dec 2007 19:44 GMT In article <4772afea$0$10980$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> posted:
> > Yo, Seppl, > > I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > daestrom Who in your opinion are reputable media outlets in this field?
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Puppet_Sock - 27 Dec 2007 00:52 GMT > Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ? > > Why do they not do that if so good ? [snip]
Small reactors typically have very low efficiency since they are typically much lower pressure, so much lower temp. Remember your thermo where the efficiency of a heat engine is restricted by the temp. diff between hot and cold sides.
At present, the cost of the fuel is much less than ten persent of the cost of operating a reactor. If you lower the efficiency a lot, this might not be true any more. Lower efficiency also means more spent fuel to dispose of, more isotopes, etc. Socks
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