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TOSHIBA'S HOME NUCLEAR REACTOR

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 26 Dec 2007 01:57 GMT
Toshiba's Home Nuclear Reactor

By Rob Beschizza
December 18, 2007

If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b)
trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small
enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a
slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.

Twenty foot long by six foot wide, the reactors produce
200kW of energy and run themselves: the entire thing is
manufactured with the fuel within, and when it runs out,
they can just send a truck to pick it up.

  "Unlike traditional nuclear reactors the new micro
  reactor uses no control rods to initiate the reaction.
  The new revolutionary technology uses reservoirs of
  liquid lithium-6, an isotope that is effective at
  absorbing neutrons. The Lithium-6 reservoirs are
  connected to a vertical tube that fits into the reactor
  core. The whole whole process is self sustaining and can
  last for up to 40 years, producing electricity for only
  5 cents per kilowatt hour, about half the cost of grid
  energy."

Waste, you say? Throw it in a mile-deep pit in New Mexico,
or something.

Unfortunately, with the way nukes have been run, it's
unlikely they'll be replacing every neighborhood's
electricity substation with one of these any time soon.
It's claimed there are buyers in Japan and Europe.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, I recall, makes something
similar, but bigger.

Toshiba Builds 100x Smaller Micro Nuclear Reactor
[Nextenergynews via Gizmodo]

More at:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/toshibas-home-n.html

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V-for-Vendicar - 26 Dec 2007 08:40 GMT
> If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b)
> trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small
> enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a
> slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.

Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the
earth, that will never be the case.
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 26 Dec 2007 09:48 GMT
In article <psocj.4690$fr2.1252@read2.cgocable.net>,
"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> posted:

> www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
>> If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b)
>> trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small
>> enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a
>> slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.

> Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the
> earth, that will never be the case.

Wouldn't it be better to attack conservatism, if you don't like it,
rather than to "exterminate" (your word) conservatives?

Jai Maharaj
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http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
Peder B. Pels - 26 Dec 2007 20:23 GMT
> > If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b)
> > trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>  Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the
> earth, that will never be the case.

Vendicar, or whatever you go for in the real world, have you ever given
thought to how many people you push away with your vitrilic style of
debate? Do you even care?

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 Dec 2007 19:48 GMT
In article <1i9qzdh.1ex2kg0el03xaN%peter@nospamplease.dk>,
peter@nospamplease.dk (Peder B. Pels) posted:


> > www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> > >
> > > If we lived in a world where everyone was (a) smart and (b)
> > > trustworthy, Toshiba's micro-sized nuclear reactor, small
> > > enough to fit in the basement or a large shed, would be a
> > > slam-dunk solution to the energy/climate crisis.

> >  Ya but until all KKKonservateves are Exterminated from the face of the
> > earth, that will never be the case.

> Vendicar, or whatever you go for in the real world, have you ever given
> thought to how many people you push away with your vitrilic style of
> debate? Do you even care?

The vitriol isn't working on at least a few posters, is it!
Besides, the vitriol appears to be directed at someone in the
White House and his followers.

Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
Josef Matz - 26 Dec 2007 14:12 GMT
Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ?

Why do they not do that if so good ?

> Toshiba's Home Nuclear Reactor
>
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> your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
> copyright owner.
hanson - 26 Dec 2007 15:47 GMT
Yo, Seppl,
I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts
when I look at the author's name of "Rob Beschizza",....
ein "Beschissener Raeuber" who was cited by an American
expatriate with an assumed Indian name & a questionable "Dr"
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

> Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ?
>
[quoted text clipped - 94 lines]
>> your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
>> copyright owner.
daestrom - 26 Dec 2007 19:47 GMT
> Yo, Seppl,
> I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts
> when I look at the author's name of "Rob Beschizza",....
> ein "Beschissener Raeuber" who was cited by an American
> expatriate with an assumed Indian name & a questionable "Dr"
> ahahahaha... ahahahanson

There are a lot of blogs, posts, and 'news stories' about this reactor, but
when you track them all down, they all use just one reference from
nextenergynews.com.  Toshiba Nuclear's web site doesn't have anything about
it and there are no other credible 'news stories' that independently report
this.  I'm thinking its just some wishful thinking by a less-than-reputable
media outlet that has been picked up by a lot of others.

daestrom
Jonathan Kirwan - 26 Dec 2007 20:33 GMT
><snip>
>I'm thinking its just some wishful thinking by a less-than-reputable
>media outlet that has been picked up by a lot of others.

I was similarly worried upon trying to track it down, as well.

But it appears to be based on a RAPID (Refuelling by All Pins,
Integral Design) concept that, earlier on and for a couple of years
between 1999 and 2001, the Japan Atomic Energy Agency was supporting
-- I believe mostly for the idea of a lunar mission.  The funding, I
think, was transferred in 2002 to the Central Research Institute of
Electric Power Industry.  I don't believe CRIEPI is worrying as much
about lunar missions.  Mitsubishi Research Institute in Japan leads
the project, I think.

Given that it has been funded for a while and that the idea has been
transferred to CRIEPI, it's not too far-fetched to imagine that enough
time and funding for the key technologies essential for the RAPID
design (the Lithium expansion, injection and release modules, for
example) have brought them close to commercial realization.

The existing specifications are documented in a January 2007 IAEA
report and show a 10MWt/1MWe specification, though, which differs
somewhat from the 5MWt/200kWe figure I've seen in a few news blurbs
I'm sure you've seen, too.  But the IAEA report was from January and
probably carried information dating back to early 2006, so this kind
of figure isn't so incongruent as to surprise me.  It has a lower
electrical output, perhaps targeted towards a particular early market
they envision better now.

I expect the actual details to continue to evolve some, but it looks
real enough.  Whether it becomes a commercial reality on Earth is
another question, of course.  Perhaps that's the wishful thinking part
of it.

Jon

--
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled
with the entrails of the last priest. [Denis Diderot]
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 Dec 2007 19:44 GMT
In article <4772afea$0$10980$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> posted:

> > Yo, Seppl,
> > I will look into that situation, but right now I have my doubts
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> daestrom

Who in your opinion are reputable media outlets in this field?

Jai Maharaj
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http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
Puppet_Sock - 27 Dec 2007 00:52 GMT
> Coudnt my energy company do that for me and keep such a system for me ?
>
> Why do they not do that if so good ?
[snip]

Small reactors typically have very low efficiency since they
are typically much lower pressure, so much lower temp.
Remember your thermo where the efficiency of a heat
engine is restricted by the temp. diff between hot and
cold sides.

At present, the cost of the fuel is much less than ten
persent of the cost of operating a reactor. If you lower
the efficiency a lot, this might not be true any more.
Lower efficiency also means more spent fuel to dispose
of, more isotopes, etc.
Socks
 
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