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Natural Science Forum / Physics / General Physics / December 2007Wish to converse with particle physicists
Free nucleons are more massive than any proton or neutron that is bound in a nucleus. Outside or unbound nucleons are more massive. The mass of the particles goes into the forces that bind them: the strong and the electromagnetic. The same is true for electrons. They are more massive when not in an atomic shell held by the elctromagneitc force. That force is as strong as the difference in mass. This is a unified version of everything. Gravity is the same. It turns mass into kinetic energy of freefall motion. The relativists have a term for this. Mitch Reamsch -- Light Fall -- > Free nucleons are more massive than any proton or neutron that is > bound in a nucleus. Outside or unbound nucleons are more massive. Experimentally verified. > The mass of the particles goes into the forces that bind them: the > strong and the electromagnetic. Current interpretation. > The same is true for electrons. Not so. Electrons are elementary. They have the exact same rest mass when isolated and when they are part of the electronic cloud of atoms. André Michaud > They are more massive when not in an atomic shell held by > the elctromagneitc force. That force is as strong > as the difference in mass. > This is a unified version of everything. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Mitch Reamsch -- Light Fall -- On Dec 27, 7:45 am, s...@microtec.net wrote: > > Free nucleons are more massive than any proton or neutron that is > > bound in a nucleus. Outside or unbound nucleons are more massive. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > André Michaud WRONG. It is true for electromagnnetic binding energy also. Mitch Raemsch > > They are more massive when not in an atomic shell held by > > the elctromagneitc force. That force is as strong > > as the difference in mass. > > This is a unified version of everything. > > Gravity is the same. It turns mass into kinetic energy of freefall > > motion. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Dec 27, 7:45 am, s...@microtec.net wrote: > > Free nucleons are more massive than any proton or neutron that is > > bound in a nucleus. Outside or unbound nucleons are more massive. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > same rest mass when isolated and when they are part > of the electronic cloud of atoms. radiation, dope |
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