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Know any good mnemonics?

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 26 Feb 2008 22:57 GMT
I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw
Androcles - 26 Feb 2008 23:32 GMT
|I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
| I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
| is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
| this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
| for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw

"Don't Know What/where/when/why/who" = "DKW"

Oh wait... you use that every day, you won't need to remember
you don't know what.
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 26 Feb 2008 23:50 GMT
> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> Oh wait... you use that every day, you won't need to remember
> you don't know what.

Oh I get it. Not a very good one though. Too many W's. You can work on
it and get back to me in a few weeks. dkw
Androcles - 27 Feb 2008 00:02 GMT
On Feb 26, 3:32 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> Oh wait... you use that every day, you won't need to remember
> you don't know what.

| Oh I get it.

The penny finally dropped, huh?

| Not a very good one though.

Better than yours.

| Too many W's.

Use any one you like, that's the beauty of mnemonics, they mean
whatever you want them to mean and nothing to anybody else.
Did it really take you three classes to learn about levers?
No wonder you rely on mnemonics.
What mnemonic would you use to remember your own name?
Hint: Don't Know Who.
Uncle Al - 27 Feb 2008 01:21 GMT
> I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
> I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
> is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
> this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
> for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw

The first twelve cranial nerves: OOOTTAFAGVAH.  It's obscene, as are
all good mneumonics.

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 27 Feb 2008 12:46 GMT
> "dkw12...@yahoo.com" wrote:
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> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
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I know that one, except I use she's hot! The "s" is for spinal
accessory. There's the one that goes On old Olympus's towering top a
Fin and German viewed some hops. I know several medical and
mathematical ones, but few related to physics. Thanks dkw
Puppet_Sock - 27 Feb 2008 16:35 GMT
On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
> I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
> is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
> this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
> for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw

Nobody uses mnemonics anymore. All you need to recall is
en.wikipedia.org and www.google.com.
Socks
tadchem - 27 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT
On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
> I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
> is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
> this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
> for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw

"If you know where to find the answer when you need it, you don't need
to know the answer." - Thaddeus Stout

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mnemonics&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.xs4all.nl/~jcdverha/scijokes/11.html

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 27 Feb 2008 23:20 GMT
> On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> Tom Davidson
> Richmond, VA

Except, almost everyone would get A's on all their tests if this were
true. Timing is also an important part of learning. dkw
Uncle Al - 28 Feb 2008 01:49 GMT
> On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
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>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mnemonics&btnG=Google+Search

I've taught undergrads.  I have no problem formulating an open book
organic exam that separates the worthy from the unworthy.  Facts are
one thing, understanding is another.  All the synthesis compendia in
the world won't save your butt if you don't know what you are doing -
a conceptual not factual necessity.

An undistorted tetrahedral sp3-hybridized carbon bears four rigorously
identical substituents free to rotate.  Said carbon is chiral.  Give
an example.  Books won't save you, understanding will.

Nobody got it, including three professors.  After seeing the answer...
"Of course!  It's obvious!"  Yeah.  Education should hurt a little.
That tells you you're growing.

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 28 Feb 2008 02:17 GMT
> > On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
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> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Wanna bet? I don't know much physics, but I'm a quick learner and I
know given enough time, with enough resources from the internet and
ordering a few physics books on line, then studying them, I would get
the answer. Timing is everything, like I said. This is why mnemonics
helps. It reduces the time you might spend orgainizing the pertinent
information. There will be some concepts that I would never
understand, given all the time I wanted though, but I could still
probably get the right answer. Mnemonics is simply a kind of
organization of the info you have ready. It helps present your info in
a more timely manner. It is precisely those kind of obscure physics
questions that only come up very occasionally, that involve multiple
steps that someone would benefit most from. In fact, any kind of
learning involves mnemonics, even if we don't recognize the method of
the mnemonic. When people say they just remember something, they don't
understand HOW that memorization took place. It could be a picture, an
order or heirarchy, an emotion, an association, a comparison to
something they already know, which in turn is a comparison of
something else...on and on. Lots of mnemonics, even if they aren't
conscious. Obvioulsy, I want some that people are aware of and how
they are used.  You may be familiar with the man who recited pi to
10,000 places, and tells prime no. form composite in seconds. Often
those people are sevants and cannot tell you how it is done. For him,
he states that each number has a shape, texture, warmth, to it. A
mnemonic? Yes, of course, not that it would help me. I have over 1,000
that I have collected over the years and I can remember all of those.
I also taught my 11-year-old daughter how remember long lists, and
write essays. It is no accident that she scored the highest on a
practice TAKS test last week, won the spelling bee, and is a straight
A student. Mnemonics is not to be dismissed so easily, IMO  dkw
tadchem - 28 Feb 2008 08:11 GMT
On Feb 27, 9:17 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> When people say they just remember something, they don't
> understand HOW that memorization took place. It could be a picture, an
> order or heirarchy, an emotion, an association, a comparison to
> something they already know, which in turn is a comparison of
> something else...on and on.

But that IS how memory works, on a functional level.

> Lots of mnemonics, even if they aren't
> conscious.

You must have an interesting definition of mnemonics.  Most of us use
the word to refer to a *conscious* memory aid, usually a verbal aid,
which itself is at best only peripherally related to the item being
remembered.  An accidental association does not constitute a mnemonic.

> Obvioulsy, I want some that people are aware of and how
> they are used.  You may be familiar with the man who recited pi to
> 10,000 places, and tells prime no. form composite in seconds. Often
> those people are sevants and cannot tell you how it is done. For him,
> he states that each number has a shape, texture, warmth, to it. A
> mnemonic? Yes, of course, not that it would help me.

No. That condition is called synesthesia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
It appears to be a result of a different 'wiring' of the brain.

> I have over 1,000
> that I have collected over the years and I can remember all of those.

I collect alphabets, chemistry books, and maps.

> I also taught my 11-year-old daughter how remember long lists, and
> write essays. It is no accident that she scored the highest on a
> practice TAKS test last week, won the spelling bee, and is a straight
> A student. Mnemonics is not to be dismissed so easily, IMO  dkw

Mnemonics are a walking stick.  Some of us get around quite well
without them. Either way, you have to use your own legs, and it is of
little use on the run.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 28 Feb 2008 11:51 GMT
> On Feb 27, 9:17 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> Tom Davidson
> Richmond, VA

Still wrong. You might understand a lot, but apparently have little
insight into how you know it, which is the interesting part of the
process of learning. Pity. If you understood that, you could easily
increase your knowledge exponentially. It reminds me of some of those
professors in college who said you couldn't possibly cram for this or
that test, since they tested concepts. Concepts though, are just
examples that apply to other examples, unless they are original
thinking, which is not very likely. Even original thinking has a basis
in other knowledge, hence the association or mnemonic is present there
too. Anyway, I always managed to do very well cramming entire books,
or chapters of technical books using mnemonics. Granted, mnemonics may
be most useful for essay type tests where you might want to write by a
formula...the formula possibly being the mnemonic you have created
which lists or includes all the points about a subject. For me though,
it seems to work equally well for technical information. Yes, I am
using a more liberal definition of mnemonics. Still, it would help for
people to think about HOW they learn and remember. Being conscious of
this and putting it into words is my definition of mnemonics.
Apparently nobody on who has seen this has a clue about such matters.
dkw
Uncle Al - 28 Feb 2008 19:42 GMT
> > > On Feb 26, 5:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> > "Of course!  It's obvious!"  Yeah.  Education should hurt a little.
> > That tells you you're growing.

> Wanna bet? I don't know much physics, but I'm a quick learner and I
> know given enough time, with enough resources from the internet and
> ordering a few physics books on line, then studying them, I would get
> the answer.
[snip]

A building that withstands loads and performs its tasks needs both a
framework and its elaboration.  Mneumonics, text references, Google...
supply elaboration.  The framework, the conceptualization, is inside
you or it is not.  Carpentry mostly requires wrote skills.  Fine
cabinetmaking is a wholly different endeavor.  Neither one is possible
without the standard inputs, but those alone won't get you a finished
product sending chills up your spine when viewed.

Almost anybody can learn organic chemistry adequately if taught well.
The diagnostic is understanding it.  Doering's formal synthesis of
bullvalene was 9 steps is poor overall yield.  Schroeder's
"spectacular" synthesis was two (!) steps from commercial starting
material, no reagents... and the second step also made the solvent
from which the product crystallized.  That is art in organic
synthesis.

When Mozart viewed a keyboard he saw music.  You got it or you don't.

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PD - 28 Feb 2008 20:41 GMT
On Feb 26, 4:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I use mnemonics whenever I can to orgainze and remember concepts that
> I don't use every day. A common example would be "f-l-e 1,2,3" which
> is a way to remember class 1-3 levers and what's in the middle. In
> this case f for fulcrum in class 1, l for load in class 2 and effort
> for class 3. Anybody got some good ones to share? Thanks, dkw

RTFM
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 28 Feb 2008 23:05 GMT
> On Feb 26, 4:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>
> RTFM

RTFM? Rote terms are forgotten mostly? Research takes foreign males?
Really, try focussing more? Read the f...ing material? dkw
PD - 28 Feb 2008 23:44 GMT
On Feb 28, 5:05 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On Feb 26, 4:57 pm, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> RTFM? Rote terms are forgotten mostly? Research takes foreign males?
> Really, try focussing more? Read the f...ing material? dkw

Yes.
I try to resist, as I'm still working through the program at FLAA, and
my sponsor says I'm not ready to meme yet.

PD
 
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