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Anti matter disproven conclusively

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mitchgrav@hotmail.com - 26 Mar 2008 03:24 GMT
Mesons are quark anti quark pairs. This makes them a matter anti
matter mixture.

The anti neutron would be 3 anti quarks with NEGATIVE strong force.
Since there is NO ANTI strong force their can be no anti neutron or
anti quarks.

In proton anti proton colliders strong matter comes out when there
should be some radiation from ANIHALATION from the matter anti matter
(even if it is risidual.) This is what anti matter theory predicts:
Radiation. This is not what is seen to happen. Anti matter theory was
originally a hole in Dirac's electron equation. Anti matter is not
real.

Positronium has a positron that has atomic shells around it. This is
poppycock.

The way anrti matter is considered to be captured also shows of its
impossibility. Cosmic rays of anti protons and anti electrons will
interact strongly with the protons and electrons in the atmposphere. I
have calculated there would be 400 quadrillion points of possible
anihalation for the proton and electron passing through the atmosphere
to be captured by the collider.

We are colliding protons with high energy protons. That is all.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
Uncle Al - 26 Mar 2008 03:44 GMT
[snip utter bullshit]

Potassium-40 decays with positron emission, fuckwad.  Go to your
supermarket, get a bottle of KCl salt substitute, shove it up your
a.s. Look at the antimatter flash in the dark,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.htm

> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

Peace and Literature.  Ha Ha Ha.

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Tom Roberts - 26 Mar 2008 15:00 GMT
> [...]

You repeatedly make authoritative-sounding pronouncements that are
completely wrong. You are clearly just repeating words you have heard,
without understanding.

Please grow up. The only way to say something sensible is to STUDY the
subject. Or pick s subject you do understand. Your posts around here are
just downright silly (which is why I usually ignore them).

Tom Roberts
PD - 26 Mar 2008 17:11 GMT
On Mar 25, 9:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Mesons are quark anti quark pairs. This makes them a matter anti
> matter mixture.
>
> The anti neutron would be 3 anti quarks with NEGATIVE strong force.

Um, no. I don't know why you would think so.
[Rest, based on erroneous premise, snipped.]
mitchgrav@hotmail.com - 26 Mar 2008 23:09 GMT
> On Mar 25, 9:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> Um, no. I don't know why you would think so.
> [Rest, based on erroneous premise, snipped.]

Back yourself up. What is opposite about the 3 neutron quarks?
The strong force?

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
PD - 26 Mar 2008 23:12 GMT
On Mar 26, 5:09 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > On Mar 25, 9:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> Back yourself up. What is opposite about the 3 neutron quarks?
> The strong force?

Nope. Some of the quantum numbers. Not the force.

Please don't guess wildly. It just looks bad.

> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
mitchgrav@hotmail.com - 27 Mar 2008 01:02 GMT
> On Mar 26, 5:09 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> Nope. Some of the quantum numbers. Not the force.

It has to be the force. Otherwise shoiw how the numbers qualify it as
anitmatter.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
PD - 27 Mar 2008 02:44 GMT
On Mar 26, 7:02 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > On Mar 26, 5:09 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

http://pdg.lbl.gov

All the quantum numbers are in the listings. It's pretty obvious.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Mar 2008 18:31 GMT
Conclusively???   Positively not  Bert
nuny@bid.nes - 27 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT
On Mar 25, 7:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Mesons are quark anti quark pairs. This makes them a matter anti
> matter mixture.

 Hard to call quarks or antiquarks "matter" since they can't exist
alone. Other than that quibble...okay...

> The anti neutron would be 3 anti quarks with NEGATIVE strong force.
> Since there is NO ANTI strong force their can be no anti neutron or
> anti quarks.

 That's like saying there's no such thing as "anti-electricity" so
there can't be such a thing as a battery with two oppositely charged
poles.

 Quite silly. There's no need to assume antiquarks would produce an
"antistrong" force.

> In proton anti proton colliders strong matter comes out when there
> should be some radiation from ANIHALATION from the matter anti matter
> (even if it is risidual.) This is what anti matter theory predicts:
> Radiation. This is not what is seen to happen. Anti matter theory was
> originally a hole in Dirac's electron equation. Anti matter is not
> real.

 What's "strong matter" supposed to be?

 Oh, and where did you get the notion that colliding protons and
antiprotons doesn't generate annihilation radiation?

> Positronium has a positron that has atomic shells around it. This is
> poppycock.

 No, it has "orbitals" around it which an electron can occupy.
Similarly, an electron has orbitals a positron can occupy. If you look
at both of them as deBroglie wave phenomena it's fairly obvious that
it has to be that way.

> The way anrti matter is considered to be captured also shows of its
> impossibility. Cosmic rays of anti protons and anti electrons will
> interact strongly with the protons and electrons in the atmposphere. I
> have calculated there would be 400 quadrillion points of possible
> anihalation for the proton and electron passing through the atmosphere
> to be captured by the collider.

 Well, you're obviously wrong.

 Mark L. Fergerson
spinoza - 27 Mar 2008 23:36 GMT
On Mar 27, 11:17 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 7:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>   No, it has "orbitals" around it which an electron can occupy.
> Similarly, an electron has orbitals a positron can occupy. If you look

occupy is a forbidden word in physics

> at both of them as deBroglie wave phenomena it's fairly obvious that
> it has to be that way.
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>
>   Mark L. Fergerson
mitchgrav@hotmail.com - 28 Mar 2008 05:36 GMT
On Mar 27, 2:17 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 7:24 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
>   Mark L. Fergerson

There is opposite electric charge. Not so for the strong force. This
conclusively disproves anti matter theory.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laurate 2008
PD - 28 Mar 2008 13:04 GMT
On Mar 27, 11:36 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2:17 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> There is opposite electric charge. Not so for the strong force.

Sure there is. The charges are labeled red, green, blue, anti-red,
anti-green, anti-blue. Anti-red and red are exact analogs to positive
and negative charges.

Please refrain from just-plain-crazy statements as an attempt to learn
something.

> This
> conclusively disproves anti matter theory.
>
> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laurate 2008
Androcles - 28 Mar 2008 13:39 GMT
On Mar 27, 11:36 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2:17 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> There is opposite electric charge. Not so for the strong force.

| Sure there is.

He said there is NOT.
Naturally Phuckwit Duck says there is.
PD - 28 Mar 2008 14:11 GMT
> On Mar 27, 11:36 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> He said there is NOT.

He did indeed. And it's wrong.

> Naturally Phuckwit Duck says there is.

And naturally, reflexively, helplessly, you jerk your knee when I say
when something IS (and condemn the statement for using "is"), and you
jerk your knee when I say when something IS NOT (and condemn the
statement for using "is not").

I notice that among your posts, the number that have any physics
content in them whatsoever is reduced to about 1 in 50, the remainder
being solely focused on condemning your targets for saying what is or
for what is not, whichever. You may find more fun at alt.debate, where
no matter what somebody says there, you'll get points for simply
saying, "I disagree." As it is, I don't know what your point is
anymore. If you ever had one other than passing long, slow hours.

PD
Androcles - 28 Mar 2008 14:29 GMT
On Mar 28, 7:39 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> He said there is NOT.

| He did indeed. And it's wrong.

He's not wrong. You are wrong.
PD - 28 Mar 2008 14:37 GMT
> On Mar 28, 7:39 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>
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>
> He's not wrong. You are wrong.

Let's see if I have your motive tracked here.

The objective is: whatever physicists say, say the opposite. That way,
at least on this newsgroup, there will be as much noise in one
direction as there is signal in the other direction, thereby making it
harder for readers to discern which is correct. There is no value
other than vandalism and noise generation, but given your current
level of self-respect, penny-ante vandalism seems like as good a
pursuit for you as any.

Think you're being effective? Do you care? Got anything better to do?

PD
Androcles - 28 Mar 2008 15:47 GMT
On Mar 28, 8:29 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> He's not wrong. You are wrong.

| Let's see if I have your motive tracked here.

Ok, let's see.

| The objective is: whatever physicists say, say the opposite.

That is your motive, I was merely demonstrating it.

We establish by definition that p = mv.
PD: No it isn't!

I have your motive tracked here, bigot.
Randy Poe - 28 Mar 2008 14:33 GMT
> > "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> saying, "I disagree." As it is, I don't know what your point is
> anymore. If you ever had one other than passing long, slow hours.

<Monty Python>
Man:
I came here for a good argument!

Other Man:
AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!

Man:
An argument isn't just contradiction.

Other Man:
Well! it CAN be!

Man:
No it can't!

Man:
An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish
a proposition.

Other Man:
No it isn't!
</MP>

          - Randy
Androcles - 28 Mar 2008 15:44 GMT
| > > "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
| >
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| No it isn't!
| </MP>

That's Phuckwit Duck alright.

Scientist/Engineer/Rest of world/Newton:
p = mv is a definition of momentum/motion.

PD:  "No it isn't!"

Einstein:
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' .

PD:
Yes, yes, Einstein said it so it must be so.

What a fuckin' BIGOT.
John Park - 28 Mar 2008 21:59 GMT
>> > "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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> No it isn't!
> </MP>

Indeed. I'm not sure whether the dead parrot or the cheese shop would
come in second for relevance.

    --John Park
nuny@bid.nes - 29 Mar 2008 00:19 GMT
On Mar 27, 9:36 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2:17 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> There is opposite electric charge.

 Yup.

> Not so for the strong force.

 How do you know this? What supporting evidence have you?

> This conclusively disproves anti matter theory.

 Saying a thing doesn't make it so. Where's your evidence?

 Mark L. Fergerson
Don Stockbauer - 28 Mar 2008 13:13 GMT
mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Mesons are quark anti quark pairs. This makes them a matter anti
> matter mixture.
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>
> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

Wont it be interesting when the creatures from Beta Lyrae 7 land in
2089 and try to make sense out of our "civilization" by combing
through the rubble and they come across statements such as "Anti
matter disproven conclusively" and they teleport back to their home to
write their reports and they say to each other "Those guys sure
believed in a bunch of false stuff in Usenet, but out in the real
world where people had to grow food to support such posters they had
to keep it real or else the Flargonian Burlon Thelmer (FBT) would
destroy the crop."
Patrick Karl - 31 Mar 2008 00:44 GMT
> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

And it's so early in the year 2008 still.  With all these great theories
you're cranking out (you don't have any experimental data, do you?),
you're bound to be awarded even more Nobel Laureates before the year is out.
socratus - 31 Mar 2008 10:32 GMT
On Mar 26, 5:24 am, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Mesons are quark anti quark pairs. This makes them a matter anti
> matter mixture.
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>
> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
===============================================
To Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
===.
1.
When Light quantum which fly with constant
speed c=1 stops its moving we call it anti matter.
2.
When Electron interact with Vacuum
we call it anti matter too.
3.
It is only my interpretation the laws of Physics. .
4.
I also hope to be Twice Nobel Laureate next year.
5.
Best wishes.
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