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ayaz - 25 Apr 2008 02:29 GMT
dear friends,

i don't know wether this is a novel idea but in my opinion it is an
idea whose time certainly has come. earlier i had proposed harvesting
cloned organs from bodies who had their heads inhibited from the
preegg stage. i feel that for the long term this method will not prove
effective for the present generation. i have therefore thought more
along the lines of ideas proposed in hollywood films and settled on
the idea of transplanting the head from the base of the neck into a
mobile ventilation unit. in the ideal case, with refinements, it could
resemble something similar to the robocop suit. i feel that it is
within the wit of man, given sufficient resources, to deliver this
mechanism of life extension. initial thoughts on a provisional design
would be along the lines of the following:

the suit would require replenishment on a daily basis of the nutrient
module and the waste module can be emptied anywhere up to a month. the
blood supply can be replenished monthly (or every 3 years for blood
substitutes) from the blood bank which can grow headless bodies to
generate the blood supply. the lithium ion batteries need to be
recharched on a daily basis. artificial oxygenation of the blood
supply means that there is no longer a need for lungs except to
provide the ability to speak. these artificial lungs can be computer
controled via the brain computer interface. alternatively the vocal
cords can be made redundent through the use of entirely computer
generated sound. further enhancements can be made to the sight and
hearing via implants or other devices.

the added functionality of a mechanical vehicle will provide enhanced
abilities in travel on land, air, under water and in space.

so this is the solution for the long term for the present generation
increasing abilities in some respects while diminishing
functionalities in others.

i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.
foolsrushin - 25 Apr 2008 02:47 GMT
(snip - at last, an entertaining loony!)

> the added functionality of a mechanical vehicle will provide enhanced
> abilities in travel on land, air, under water and in space.
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> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.
--
'foolsrushin.'
Tom - 25 Apr 2008 02:57 GMT
Yea, Maybe Al Gore will volunteer for this?
He could save us all from global warming if he is around long enough.

> dear friends,
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> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.
Tom Potter - 25 Apr 2008 10:20 GMT
> dear friends,
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> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.

All this isn't necessary.

I am selling "Immortality Pills"
and I offer a lifetime guarantee
with every purchase!!!!

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Uncle Al - 25 Apr 2008 22:22 GMT
> dear friends,
>
> i don't know wether this is a novel idea but in my opinion it is an
> idea whose time certainly has come.

Already an idiot.  Nice spam list, a.shole.

> earlier i had proposed harvesting
> cloned organs from bodies who had their heads inhibited from the
> preegg stage.

Harvest the Third World.

> i feel that for the long term this method will not prove
> effective for the present generation. i have therefore thought more
> along the lines of ideas proposed in hollywood films]

Did you study to be stooopid?

> and settled on
> the idea of transplanting the head from the base of the neck into a
> mobile ventilation unit.

Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
that for an itch that cannot be scratched?  Any part of the sensory
brain that is denied input begins to scream.  Severe hearing deficit
in a narrow frequency window eventually results in horrible tinnitus.
The simple cure is to slap on pair of headphones and blast in that
frequency.  Teh erhosn feel loved and they stop screaming.

> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.

Cut off your head then call 911.

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Tom - 25 Apr 2008 23:05 GMT
>> dear friends,
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> The simple cure is to slap on pair of headphones and blast in that
> frequency.  Teh erhosn feel loved and they stop screaming.

This is the first time I snarfed doritos instead of Pepsie.
Thank's AL. That was god damn funny.

>> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.
>
> Cut off your head then call 911.
Rock Brentwood - 25 Apr 2008 23:57 GMT
> > earlier i had proposed harvesting
> > cloned organs from bodies who had their heads inhibited from the
> > preegg stage.
>
> Harvest the Third World.

This brings up the image of giant harvesting machines, each which
stands on 3 legs and has large snake-like appendages which snatch up
large numbers of people at a time, to place in a waiting carriage for
the mulching machine. Each, of course, has a powerful plasma beam
emitting device for self-defense.
ayaz - 26 Apr 2008 00:53 GMT
> Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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> The simple cure is to slap on pair of headphones and blast in that
> frequency.  Teh erhosn feel loved and they stop screaming.

uncle al, ordinarily i would agree with you based on the information
given but let me present an elaboration which will put the matter in a
new light. firstly, the head will retain sensory and motor function,
retaining all five senses. secondly, those centres of the brain
responsible for coordination of other bodily functions will generate
specific frequencies. from experimentation these frequencies are known
and can be used as a basis for neural dialogue thereby retaining a
sense of control over some approximation to the human body.
Uncle Al - 26 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT
> > Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> > body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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> and can be used as a basis for neural dialogue thereby retaining a
> sense of control over some approximation to the human body.

Do you read what you write?  Losing an arm is a lifetime of discomfort
but losign a body is no problem at all?

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ayaz - 30 Apr 2008 00:39 GMT
> > > Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> > > body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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al, having seen a documentary on this issue on national geographic
channel i think it was, recently, i witnessed the experiments done in
russia and america where a severed head connected to a life support
machine retains awareness and responds to sensory stimuli. further,
extracted brains continued to show em activity and transplanted heads
made two headed animals viable. so you see, the science is elementary,
what is lacking is the political will to see the research through.

about the potential loss of sensation of a body: as i made it clear in
my previous posting, the interactive nature of the electrodes fitted
to the skull cap ensures that the brain is not deprived of sensory
input or motor control of limbs etc. infact i feel it would be
possible to enhance interactive capabilities by acquiring control of
sophisticated machinery through the computer interface in the visual
cortex coupled with motor responses as appropriate.
ayaz - 30 Apr 2008 06:52 GMT
> > > > Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> > > > body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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how about this for a novel development? the patient wears a mobile
life-support device on his/her back which is connected to the patients
own blood supply. in the event of organ failure, the machine switches
on the appropriate program and simultaneously sends a message to the
nearest hospital in order to receive a replacement organ which can now
be grown to order.
ayaz - 30 Apr 2008 07:25 GMT
> > > > > Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> > > > > body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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if you are concerned about the weight of this unit, then it can be
attached to an electric wheelchair. with this in mind, i contacted an
agency in japan to take this matter further. but i suspect that i will
hear no response, as prolonging life is clearly a low priority for any
world government.

now, consider the consequences of extreme old age. some of us might
take the line that 'we would rather die than lose our place in the
sun' in which case there will be two groups of people, the immortals
and the mortals. as befits their abilities, the immortals may decide
to offer their services in the teaching profession or government or
senior management whereas the beautiful mortals might decide to become
entertainers and soldiers and builders.

what do you think of that?
z - 30 Apr 2008 17:46 GMT
> > > > Idiot.  "Futurama" heads in a jar.  Might one suppose amputating the
> > > > body will lead to the whole body analogue of phantom limb pain?  How's
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betcha your head/brain doesn't last too much longer than the rest of
your body before debrading.
mitch.nicolas.raemsch@gmail.com - 25 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT
> dear friends,
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>
> i welcome offers from institutions to take research to conclusion.

The universe doesn't die neither do civilizations.

Mitch Raemsch
Entertained by my own EIMC - 27 Apr 2008 15:39 GMT
>> dear friends,
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>
> Mitch Raemsch
Your die-hard conventional definition of dying is debatable. ;)
 
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