FIELD CONCEPT OF LIGHT, EMISSION THEORY, END OF PHYSICS
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Pentcho Valev - 27 May 2008 05:55 GMT http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies that Led him to it." in Cambridge Companion to Einstein, M. Janssen and C. Lehner, eds., Cambridge University Press. Preprint. John Norton: "Einstein could not see how to formulate a fully relativistic electrodynamics merely using his new device of field transformations. So he considered the possibility of modifying Maxwell's electrodynamics in order to bring it into accord with an emission theory of light, such as Newton had originally conceived. There was some inevitability in these attempts, as long as he held to classical (Galilean) kinematics. Imagine that some emitter sends out a light beam at c. According to this kinematics, an observer who moves past at v in the opposite direction, will see the emitter moving at v and the light emitted at c+v. This last fact is the defining characteristic of an emission theory of light: the velocity of the emitter is added vectorially to the velocity of light emitted....If an emission theory can be formulated as a field theory, it would seem to be unable to determine the future course of processes from their state in the present. AS LONG AS EINSTEIN EXPECTED A VIABLE THEORY LIGHT, ELECTRICITY AND MAGNETISM TO BE A FIELD THEORY, these sorts of objections would render an EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT INADMISSIBLE."
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that PHYSICS CANNOT BE BASED UPON THE FIELD CONCEPT, that is on continuous structures. Then NOTHING WILL REMAIN of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."
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Pentcho Valev - 29 May 2008 08:11 GMT > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming > "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." For the moment the Reverend John Stachel is the only Einsteinian that has no problems with Newton's emission theory of light:
http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay-einstein-relativity.htm This reprints an essay written ca. 1983, "'What Song the Syrens Sang': How Did Einstein Discover Special Relativity?" in John Stachel, Einstein from "B" to "Z". "This was itself a daring step, since these methods had been developed to help understand the behavior of ordinary matter while Einstein was applying them to the apparently quite different field of electromagnetic radiation. The "revolutionary" conclusion to which he came was that, in certain respects, electromagnetic radiation behaved more like a collection of particles than like a wave. He announced this result in a paper published in 1905, three months before his SRT paper. The idea that a light beam consisted of a stream of particles had been espoused by Newton and maintained its popularity into the middle of the 19th century. It was called the "emission theory" of light, a phrase I shall use.....Giving up the ether concept allowed Einstein to envisage the possibility that a beam of light was "an independent structure," as he put it a few years later, "which is radiated by the light source, just as in Newton's emission theory of light.".....An emission theory is perfectly compatible with the relativity principle. Thus, the M-M experiment presented no problem; nor is stellar abberration difficult to explain on this basis......This does not imply that Lorentz's equations are adequate to explain all the features of light, of course. Einstein already knew they did not always correctly do so-in particular in the processes of its emission, absorption and its behavior in black body radiation. Indeed, his new velocity addition law is also compatible with an emission theory of light, just because the speed of light compounded with any lesser velocity still yields the same value. If we model a beam of light as a stream of particles, the two principles can still be obeyed. A few years later (1909), Einstein first publicly expressed the view that an adequate future theory of light would have to be some sort of fusion of the wave and emission theories......The resulting theory did not force him to choose between wave and emission theories of light, but rather led him to look forward to a synthesis of the two."
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances."
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Androcles - 29 May 2008 10:07 GMT > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming > "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." For the moment the Reverend John Stachel is the only Einsteinian that has no problems with Newton's emission theory of light:
http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay-einstein-relativity.htm This reprints an essay written ca. 1983, "'What Song the Syrens Sang': How Did Einstein Discover Special Relativity?" in John Stachel, Einstein from "B" to "Z". "This was itself a daring step, since these methods had been developed to help understand the behavior of ordinary matter while Einstein was applying them to the apparently quite different field of electromagnetic radiation. The "revolutionary" conclusion to which he came was that, in certain respects, electromagnetic radiation behaved more like a collection of particles than like a wave. He announced this result in a paper published in 1905, three months before his SRT paper. The idea that a light beam consisted of a stream of particles had been espoused by Newton and maintained its popularity into the middle of the 19th century. It was called the "emission theory" of light, a phrase I shall use.....Giving up the ether concept allowed Einstein to envisage the possibility that a beam of light was "an independent structure," as he put it a few years later, "which is radiated by the light source, just as in Newton's emission theory of light.".....An emission theory is perfectly compatible with the relativity principle. Thus, the M-M experiment presented no problem; nor is stellar abberration difficult to explain on this basis......This does not imply that Lorentz's equations are adequate to explain all the features of light, of course. Einstein already knew they did not always correctly do so-in particular in the processes of its emission, absorption and its behavior in black body radiation. Indeed, his new velocity addition law is also compatible with an emission theory of light, just because the speed of light compounded with any lesser velocity still yields the same value. If we model a beam of light as a stream of particles, the two principles can still be obeyed. A few years later (1909), Einstein first publicly expressed the view that an adequate future theory of light would have to be some sort of fusion of the wave and emission theories......The resulting theory did not force him to choose between wave and emission theories of light, but rather led him to look forward to a synthesis of the two."
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances."
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stachel's long-winded rant boil's down to nothing.
 Signature Androcles
Why did Einstein say the speed of light from A to B is c-v, the speed of light from B to A is c+v, the "time" each way is the same?
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G. L. Bradford - 29 May 2008 11:29 GMT > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming > "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > ELECTRICITY AND MAGNETISM TO BE A FIELD THEORY, these sorts of > objections would render an EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT INADMISSIBLE." You really do not understand the concept of 'photo' do you? Or 'time stop'? Or that the source doesn't stop; never stops. Light never propagates as source (0) but as [already] history (-). Regarding light and sources, observers can only [try] to deal in the space and time difference (+) between (-) and (0).
GLB
Pentcho Valev - 05 Jun 2008 19:20 GMT > For the moment the Reverend John Stachel is the only Einsteinian that > has no problems with Newton's emission theory of light: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain > circumstances." Curiously, John Stachel and John Norton are friends, write books together, sell them to Einstein zombie world and share the money. However, while John Stachel teaches that Einstein's relativity and Newton's emission theory of light are compatible, John Norton teaches the opposite:
http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/Goodies/rel_of_sim/index.html John Norton: "But an emission theory is precluded in special relativity by the part of the light postulate that asserts that the velocity of light is independent of the velocity of the emitter."
Einstein zombie world invariably sings "Divine Einstein".
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Pentcho Valev - 10 Jul 2008 00:07 GMT > > For the moment the Reverend John Stachel is the only Einsteinian that > > has no problems with Newton's emission theory of light: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Einstein zombie world invariably sings "Divine Einstein". An even more curious case. Bryan Roberts is a teaching assistant for John Norton and this Bryan Roberts teaches Einstein zombie world that the Michelson-Morley experiment gives support to Einstein's 1905 light postulate:
http://www.soulphysics.org/2008_04_01_archive.html Bryan Roberts: "The Michelson-Morley experiment (read the original paper here) is one of the first textbook experiments that you learn about in support of the light postulate. From this postulate, together with the principle of relativity, it is easy to derive the group of Lorentz transformations, which form the basis for special relativity theory."
Bryan Roberts' boss, John Norton, teaches Einstein zombie world that the Michelson-Morley experiment gives support to Newton's emission theory that contradicts Einstein's 1905 light postulate:
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."
Einstein zombie world invariably sings "Divine Einstein".
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Pentcho Valev - 10 Jul 2008 20:24 GMT > > > For the moment the Reverend John Stachel is the only Einsteinian that > > > has no problems with Newton's emission theory of light: [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > Einstein zombie world invariably sings "Divine Einstein". http://www.soulphysics.org/2008/04/string-time-in-pittsburgh-part-i.html Bryan Roberts, teaching assistant for John Norton: "For example, think about 19th century electrodynamics. The `paradigm' of this theory 1) included an ontology of the luminiferous ether, of which it 2) was incapable of determining the state of rest. It also 3) fixed the speed of light, independent of one's inertial frame. Special relativity allowed for a new view of electromagnetism by rejecting 1, retaining 2 and 3, and deriving the relativity of simultaneity as a consequence."
Silly Bryan Roberts teaches John Norton's students that 19th century electrodynamics "fixed the speed of light, independent of one's inertial frame" and John Norton, the cleverest Einsteinian, is happy with that! Something very strange is going on in Einstein criminal cult...
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Pentcho Valev - 13 Jun 2008 20:42 GMT > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming > "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." http://www.academie-sciences.fr/membres/in_memoriam/Einstein/Einstein_pdf/Einste in_eloge.pdf Louis de Broglie: "Tout d'abord toute idée de <<grain>> se trouvait expulsée de la théorie de la Lumière : celle-ci prenait la forme d'une <<théorie du champ>> où le rayonnement était représenté par une répartition continue dans l'espace de grandeurs évoluant continûment au cours du temps sans qu'il fût possible de distinguer, dans les domaines spatiaux au sein desquels évoluait le champ lumineux, de très petites régions singulières où le champ serait très fortement concentré et qui fournirait une image du type corpusculaire. Ce caractère à la fois continu et ondulatoire de la lumière se trouvait prendre une forme très précise dans la théorie de Maxwell où le champ lumineux venait se confondre avec un certain type de champ électromagnétique."
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Pentcho Valev - 14 Jun 2008 05:33 GMT > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/cv.html#forthcoming > > "Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > lumineux venait se confondre avec un certain type de champ > électromagnétique." http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20279 Lee Smolin: "It is also disappointing that none of the biographers mention the writings that lead John Stachel, the founding editor of the Einstein Papers project, to speak of "the other Einstein." These writings look beyond his struggles with the unified field theory to "the other possibility [which] leads in my opinion to a renunciation of the space-time continuum..."
Do all those honest biographers have a serious reason to avoid "the other Einstein" problem? Something to do with "NOTHING WILL REMAIN of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics"?
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