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Natural Science Forum / Physics / General Physics / July 2008my letter to electric car companies
Hello; I thought you would like to know of my following activity recently: I saw a GEM EV on the street near my home. I asked the owner if he charges his car from the sun. He said, "no". He said he charges it by plugging into his house current every night. I then made the following placard and stood by his car while it was parked on the street. The placard read: "This electric car is one of the WORST polluting vehicles in the world! The batteries in this car are NOT charged with CLEAN solar energy. The batteries are charged with house current which is generated by POLLUTING electric companies. Companies which continually emit carbon dioxide and who knows what else! SAVE THE PLANET BY NOT BUYING ONE OF THESE CARS ! (that is- unless they come with solar panels) " Just about every person who read my sign- agreed with my statement. When the owner returned, he was somewhat distressed. (which was not my intent-hopefully, he will go out and buy some solar panels) I just want you to know that I plan to show my (above) sign next to YOUR EV if I ever see it on a street. I will do this UNLESS: 1. Your company gets rid of the 110v ac plug on your car. 2. Your company provides the car with a REMOVABLE battery pack. 3. Your company sells an extra battery pack or more with the car. 4. Your company sells an array of solar panels (with a decent warranty)which is enough to charge the extra battery pack in 8 hours of sunlight! (while the driver is out driving his car) In other words; there is enough sunlight in just about every place on earth to charge an extra battery pack in 1 to 4 days. The packs can be made to be quickly and easily exchanged from panel to car, and vise versa by the owner. (by hand or with a wheeled dolly) There is no reason to plug your car into the grid! I am declaring WAR on plug-in vehicles! I hope I've made my position clear on this. Sincerely, Michael Korman > Hello; > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > generated by POLLUTING electric companies. Companies which continually > emit carbon dioxide and who knows what else! So you forgot the power plants that are run by hydroelectric, wind, and a tiny bit of solar already then? Go place your signs on the power plants that are bad themselves. Don't place the sign on the car that used a combination of the powerplants. You might as well place a sign on yourself too for making CO2 when you breathe. :)  SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman On Jul 1, 10:51 am, "misterf...@yahoo.com" <misterf...@yahoo.com> wrote: > SAVE THE PLANET BY NOT BUYING ONE OF THESE CARS ! > (that is- unless they come with solar panels) " Typical lefty liberal living in DREAMLAND! Obviously you own ZERO solar panels, but nevertheless are ready to tell everyone else to own them! I strongly suggest you read a few freshman science texts and learn that quantity matters. I also suggest you charge YOUR OWN car with solar panels for some first-hand experience with "your" technology. MORON. > I just want you to know that I plan to show my (above) sign next to > YOUR EV if I ever see it on a street. > > I will do this UNLESS: > > 1. Your company gets rid of the 110v ac plug on your car. Why not put a sign on yourself that says, " I AM AN IGNORANT MORON!" ? You don't get it at all do you? When you power your car on electricity rather than oil, you have switched from a natural resource starting to run out to one that gives us 300 years of time to develop some energy technology that actually works rather than your imaginary world. But you are right that coal is a nasty polluter. THIS IS why electric cars are GOOD. They concentrate attention on this serious coal problem that needs solved right now, instead of all the blatant idiocy that you and yours are promoting that deflect attention from real problems and real solutions and get the world chasing its tail for the profit of the few at the expense of all of us who live here! Idiot! > 2. Your company provides the car with a REMOVABLE battery pack. Why? Is there some point here as to why a pack that weighs a ton and only lasts 5 years has to be removable? OK, to replace it, but somehow I don't think that is what you are talking about is it? I hereby appoint YOU to be the official battery pack switcher so electric car owners can have one pack charging while the other is driving around. What is your phone number so we can send you over to do this job each day. 1. Weight of battery pack. 2. idiot. > 3. Your company sells an extra battery pack or more with the car. 1. You mean so BOTH packs can die at the same time after 5 years? 2. "green" Moron. > 4. Your company sells an array of solar panels (with a decent > warranty)which is enough to charge the extra battery pack in 8 hours > of sunlight! (while the driver is out driving his car) Ignoramus. Whacha gonna do? Pass a law that everyone has to move to Arizona? You have NO idea how stupid you are. I suggest the automakers GIVE you an solar-charged electric car so you can feel SO SUPERIOR to all us clowns... as you pedal your bike to work (If you have a job, which I doubt!) > In other words; there is enough sunlight in just about every place > on earth to charge an extra battery pack in 1 to 4 days. The packs can > be made to be quickly and easily exchanged from panel to car, and vise > versa by the owner. (by hand or with a wheeled dolly) There is no > reason to plug your car into the grid! Hey a.shole. I happen to OWN a solar panel and charging system. Just great for powering some roadside car counter, but I just want to see you trying to get enough power to drive your car to work each day! Oh that's right, you don't work so a trip to Mc D's or to get some more weed for your stash is all the driving you need. And for the record solar panel charging really seems to shorten the life of batteries unless properly designed. But what would you know about any practical questions like that? > I am declaring WAR on plug-in vehicles! > > I hope I've made my position clear on this. You have. You are a moron. And by the way, while we are at it, let us take a bit of time to note that CO2 is not an air pollutant, has NOTHING to do with "Global Warming" and is clearly a POLITICAL problem that needs to be dealt with before it destroys the First World while making a few fabulously rich. I guess you figure that if a politician as dumb and full of lies as Algore [inventor of the INTERNET and AGW] can win the Nobel Prize, that maybe there is hope for someone as dumb as you (IF you make a loud enough public noise!) I don't think so. We'll be watching for that Nobel Prize... > On Jul 1, 10:51 am, "misterf...@yahoo.com" <misterf...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > We'll be watching for that Nobel Prize... I'm incapable of believing that the OP could be this stupid, therefore he must be simply a Troll. Cutting to the chase, does anyone believe that he actually does what he claims? If so, this guy is rather borderline, and I am damn glad that I don't live where this clueless lunatic does. (I'll hope that he lives in CA and not in MA.) Still, a funny read, and I don't believe a line of it! (Lol) Harry C. On Jul 1, 5:51 pm, "misterf...@yahoo.com" <misterf...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello; > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Sincerely, Michael Korman --- hey man!! polution is a factor but at this time not the most important there are prior factors 1 to lower the energy price that is becoming impossible 2 the lectric car has to be developed while looking further to future **while other finer sources of electricity will be developed *(*(and you bet they will be ** it si mainly a matter of investment ) and in future you will have the luxury to be a chooser as for now there is stil a long wat ubtill batteries will be developed to answer the problem satisfactory so to sum up" betetr batteries and mass production of electricity for instance fusion !!! ATB Y.Porat ----------------------------- Y. Porat I have gone green. I just bought a calculator that charges on Sun light.Have only fluorescent bulbs,but to balance this I bought a Hummer. It was sold very cheap because it is a gas guzzler. I like cheap,and best to keep in mind money is energy Bert How much did you pay for your Hummer and what are you going to do with it ? Well, that was a stupid rant. Power Plants (even oil fired ones) are far more efficient at producing the power to run and electric vehicle then a gasoline engine. So plugging in an electric car still produces emissions (at the power plant) but it's LESS emissions. Personally, I get my electric power from wind turbines so my future "plug in" car will indeed be zero emissions. So there! Dwib On Jul 1, 9:51 am, "misterf...@yahoo.com" <misterf...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello; > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Sincerely, Michael Korman 1) Electric motor in 90% efficient, your grid electricity is coming from Power Plant that is 45% efficient, uses cheap coal and potentially clear nuclear (some wind and solar coming up) at the other hand 2) Gasoline motor is 25% efficient, uses expensive oil that is about to be used up in 50 years Do the math which combination will waste more energy and pollute more, and which is more expensive. At present prices, it cost me 4$ to go to work on gasoline driven Prius, and 70$ on charged from the grid plug-in Prius (it is the same car with the same energy needed to drive it!). Prices reflect the efficiency to society - electrically powered cars are much more efficient even without any changes to the grid. And of cause, Amen to home-installed solar cells, but to charge your extra battery you will need to cover your entire roof with them (again, do the math of needed Wh), and they will cost twice more than the car. As for extra battery, much better deal is to feed back electricity into the grid during the day. Saves a lot of cost - presently plug-in battery is more expensive than the car itself! Regards, Yevgen > On Jul 1, 9:51 am, "misterf...@yahoo.com" <misterf...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > At present prices, it cost me 4$ to go to work on gasoline driven > Prius, and 70$ on charged ^^^^^^^ Upps, that came out wrong. It was 70 cents, NOT 70$. > from the grid plug-in Prius (it is the same car with the same energy > needed to drive it!). [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Regards, > Yevgen |
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