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Natural Science Forum / Physics / General Physics / July 2008Physicists don't deliver
I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in the next solar system. We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter. And working on this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? Jade <snipped irrelevant groups> > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. We will never "fold" space. The lightsaber may actually be possible in the future though once physics gets rid of this "spacetime" bullshit and comes back to space and time seperately for measurement systems. :)  SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman On Jul 1, 2:19 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > <snipped irrelevant groups> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > once physics gets rid of this "spacetime" bullshit and comes back > to space and time seperately for measurement systems. Well, they have to!!! Since it's Philosophers and Mathematican bullshit artists that invented it in the first place. > :) > > -- > James M Driscoll Jr > Spaceman > On Jul 1, 2:19 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > bullshit > artists that invented it in the first place. Yup, and even more sad, they will bend space and THEN they will say they can take the shortest distance between two points, but without the bend being far enough,, they can't make tunnels to find the straight line as the shortest distance. :) How silly is that? LOL :) SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you prosperous and safe. Bob Kolker >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Bob Kolker Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob? Jade >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jade I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics, weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones... you know, the stuff you use, Jade. >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones... > you know, the stuff you use, Jade. Oh yeah, like physicists came up with all that stuff. C'mon guys. You really do think we're all a bunch of bumbling rubes out here in non science world, don't you? Sheesh. Next you'll say you invented the automobile or the airplane. Is this the kind of line your connected university physicists use so they can get huge grants to play around with quarks? Jade >>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jade Why don't you think about a bit more Jade... Where did those transistors and integrated circuits come from? And yes they are an integral part of the modern automobile and airplane. >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > and integrated circuits come from? And yes they are an integral part > of the modern automobile and airplane. and for the last 40 years, since a physicist invented the transistor, physicists have hardly had even a pinky's worth of forward technological motion compared to engineers. get a grip, dude. when you figure out how to make a tardis, come on back and well talk. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > physicists have hardly had even a pinky's worth of forward > technological motion compared to engineers. get a grip, dude. Um, let's see... grid computing HTTP quantum computers warm-temperature superconductors doppler radar proton therapy lasers (as in CD/DVD players, f'rinstance) Could go on... Do you need your subscription to Popular Science renewed? > when you figure out how to make a tardis, come on back and well talk. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom > > >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > > >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > > -dave hillstrom ---------------- another example about a proffessional plagiary and parasite most of most advance in practial thechnology was not done by theoretist of science but in the big private technology insitutes and labouratories RCA PHILIPS SONY etc etc (a flia is sitting on the back of a dashing elephant and shouting loudly - look look what a big dust WE do !!!) ATB Y.Porat >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > and integrated circuits come from? And yes they are an integral part > of the modern automobile and airplane. Regarding Sam Wormley's question: "Where did those transistors and integrated circuits come from?" 1. Marconi set up a company to send "telegrams" over long distances where cables were not practical or were too costly, as he could make a lot of money charging folks several dollars for each word transmitted between America and Europe. As can be seen, from the excerpt below, Marconi generated big sparks and used a "coherer", which is a "a little tube of glass..filled with finely powdered fragments of nickel and silver" to detect if the spark was off or on. "A typical high-power spark gap was a rotating commutator with six to twelve contacts per wheel, nine inches to a foot wide, driven by about 2000 volts DC" McClure's Magazine, February, 1902, pages 291-299: MARCONI'S ACHIEVEMENT. TELEGRAPHING ACROSS THE OCEAN WITHOUT WIRES. "In his actual transoceanic experiments of last December, Mr. Marconi's transmitting station in England was fitted with twenty masts 210 feet high, each with its suspended wire, though not all of them were used. A current of electricity sufficient to operate some 300 incandescent lamps was used, the resulting spark being so brilliant that one could not have looked at it with the unshaded eye." "it was far more difficult to devise an apparatus to receive and register them. For this purpose Marconi adopted a device invented by an Italian, Calzecchi, and improved by a Frenchman, M. Branley, called the coherer, the very crux of the system, without which there could be no wireless telegraphy." 2. Although this worked, it was obvious that it was desirable to improve channel capacity and sensitivity. In 1908 Lee De Forest, an American inventor with over 300 patents to his credit including one in 1919 for a sound-on-film process. placed a "control grid" in Edison's "diode" and patented what came to be known as the "triode". It is interesting to see that although De Forest was very creative, was instrumental in getting radio up and running, and married several beautiful gals, he was not too popular with the gang that was working to get control of the movies and the media, perhaps because he was so active against the instigation of the Class Wars of the 1900's. Note that De Forest has been ignored or smeared by the media, and the gang that opposed De Forest even got the United States Attorney General to sue De Forest for fraud stating that his claim of regeneration (Positive feedback) was an "absurd". But cut to the chase. 3. In 1906 G.W. Pickard patented the cat's whisker diode which became widely used to "rectify" and thus "demodulate" radio signals. 4. In the 1920s, the Westinghouse company bought Lee De Forest's patent, (Which made radio amplification, selection, and sensitivity possible.) and they formed partnerships with several large firms to promote radio. At that point radio took off. 5. In 1925 Julius Edgar Lilienfeld patented a "field effect transistor" which was basically a solid sate version of the triode, combined with the "cat's whisker" idea. 6. In 1945, after WWI, and after Lilienfeld's patents expired, Bell Labs hacked the point contact, germanium transistor. which was based on the "cat's whisker" diode, and the triode, and others followed up adopting Lilienfeld's field effect approach. So to answer Sammy's question: "Where did those transistors and integrated circuits come from?" They came as all things do from the natural evolution of need and technology. The Bell System needed a low cost, low power consumption amplifying device, and they got it by exploiting a few discoveries made over the previous few decades. Edison's diode, De Forest's triode, Pickard solid state diode, and Lilienfeld's solid state triode. It should be noted that Edison, De Forest, Pickard, and Lilienfeld were not quantum mechanics and General Relativity gurus, nor for that matter, was the Texas Instrument engineer who invented integrated circuits. SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones... > you know, the stuff you use, Jade. ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers and, of all things, architects and artists. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as sh.t wasn't an artist. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 >>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody > got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as sh.t wasn't an artist. We got us a live IGBT!!! Signaturenuts >> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody >got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as sh.t wasn't an artist. youre right. it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist. thanks for playing. good luck next time. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0400, in the land of alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >thanks for playing. good luck next time. just a few years ago I could not speel injunear, now I are won. SignatureA Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz Accept No Substitute >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0400, in the land of >alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >just a few years ago I could not speel injunear, now I are won. duh. thats cuz you are responsible for actual product instead of taking acid and staring at the stars, babbling into a little recorder so that tomorrow you might see if you actually thought of anything that could land a grant. like physicists do. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:23:28 -0400, in the land of alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing: >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0400, in the land of >>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >so that tomorrow you might see if you actually thought of anything >that could land a grant. like physicists do. I are responbull fer utter peeps stuff. SignatureA Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz Accept No Substitute >>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist. Head in the sand, Dave? >>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Head in the sand, Dave? hardly. those packages are often called "hocky pucks" by the engineers that use them every day in high power designs. and they are simply upscaled sizewise from the little solid state switches weve been producing for decades. a little change of doping here, a little metal deposition there, and voila! an expensive solid state switch with damned near zero ohms for high power designs like electric cars. oh, and, by the way, they hire engineers to run the semiconductor lines nowadays. and they hire engineers to design the next rev of semiconductor line. no physicists needed. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom >>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > lines nowadays. and they hire engineers to design the next rev of > semiconductor line. Yeah but those engineer don't have the foggiest idea what makes those semiconductors work. So sad. > no physicists needed. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom > >>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > > -dave hillstrom ----------- and parasite f.ckers like you do **know **??? little crook !! Y.Porat >>>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Yeah but those engineer don't have the foggiest idea what makes > those semiconductors work. So sad. ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. so your point is incorrect. thanks for playing. please try again. >> no physicists needed. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> the privileges of the new office. here here!!" >> -dave hillstrom -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i > was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. > so your point is incorrect. But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of semiconductors? > > ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i > > was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. > > so your point is incorrect. > But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of semiconductors? Can't speak for him, but to get my BSEE I did. There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few more to get a dual degree. SignatureJim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. >>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few more > to get a dual degree. Very good. > >>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i > >>> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few more > > to get a dual degree. > Very good. Yeah, well I was a phyics major until I read some salary surveys and decided I liked food with my meals and didn't want to be a starving student for 2 to 3 more years getting a Phd. Since I never got into semi development I've had little occasion to use much beyond Newton, but sometimes life pulls a surprise and you wind up using something you thought was totally useless when going to school. Anyway, about this thread... Pysicists (and most 'ists) usually invent concepts for "things" and seldom actual "things", which is left to the engineers who put the concepts together into a product. That the Sony DVD factory is full of engineers and probably no physicists should not be a surprise to anyone with the least bit of common sense. SignatureJim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. On Jul 2, 9:05 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > That the Sony DVD factory is full of engineers and probably no physicists > should not be a surprise to anyone with the least bit of common sense. I would put it a different way. Physicists usually arrive at a general principle or a theory that covers a broad range of phenomena. It is in fact very unusual for a physicist to have a theory that provides only one or two applications. The OP appears to be looking for a direct chain from a physicist's discovered principle to a clearly recognized application that stems directly from it. But the principles and the theories in fact can be applied broadly and over and over and over again. And this is what applied physicists, engineers, and inventors do -- repurpose the same principle or theory to generate multiple applications. So suppose you have three physicists that collaboratively discover some fundamental principle. And then suppose that 1357 engineers and inventors produce 2395 practical applications from that one fundamental principle. Then who has made the stronger impact? The multitude of engineers and inventors that produced almost 2400 useful products, or the handful of physicists that found the principle that all the rest used? PD > Physicists usually arrive at a general principle or a theory that > covers a broad range of phenomena. It is in fact very unusual for a > physicist to have a theory that provides only one or two applications. > The OP appears to be looking for a direct chain from a physicist's > discovered principle to a clearly recognized application that stems > directly from it. Actually he appears to be pushing buttons to see if he can get knee jerk reactions. I'd say he's being pretty successfull. SignatureJim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. On Jul 3, 9:55 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > Physicists usually arrive at a general principle or a theory that > > covers a broad range of phenomena. It is in fact very unusual for a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'd say he's being pretty successfull. Oh, this is nothing more than a campus-style chest-thumping exercise, like an Aggies vs. Longhorns football game. I know that. I'm reminded about story about the different parts of the body arguing about who was more important: the brain, the heart, the stomach, the feet, and the a.shole. In the end, the a.shole clenched shut for a week and a half and won the argument. I suspect the OP is taking the position of the a.shole. PD >>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>>> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Very good. yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near completely obsoleted physicists in organizations worldwide. you see, we engineers actually INNOVATE and DESIGN things that are useful, as opposed to physicists who stand at blackboards or scrawling up trees worth of paper whilst pulling out their hair trying to figure out something, anything, even just one thing in their ~lifetime~, that ~might~ be even ~marginally~ useful. so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available > information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent from the CMB o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) o etc. Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific references? > > so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? > > o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) Theory probably wrong. > o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent > from the CMB Theory DEFINITELY wrong! > o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) Oh sure. I've got one on my desk right now! Great invention! > o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) > o etc. Now we are getting somewhere! Oh yes! Quantum Mechanics! Now there is where theory really meets common sense! It's where things exist and don't exist at the same time! Where waves travel in nothing and everything happens by pure dice throwing! Yep this is REAL progress! Um can you say "bullshit artist"? I KNEW that you could! > Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific > references? We know it is, but if you told us what is on that list ALL of us would have to be killed! So for now, let us just stick with the A-bomb and H-bomb as the major triumphs of modern physics! >>> so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? >> o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > have to be killed! So for now, let us just stick with the A-bomb and > H-bomb as the major triumphs of modern physics! I was hoping you were smarter that you reply suggests. > Now we are getting somewhere! Oh yes! Quantum Mechanics! Now there is > where theory really meets common sense! It's where things exist and > don't exist at the same time! Where waves travel in nothing and > everything happens by pure dice throwing! Yep this is REAL progress! > Um can you say "bullshit artist"? I KNEW that you could! If a Quantum "mechanic" is stating such crap, they should be demoted to a quantum physicist immediately since they some how have forgotten the "mechanics" parts. :) SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman >> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available >> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) not useful to humanity > o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent > from the CMB not useful to humanity > o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity in any sort of short term way > o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) > o etc. this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity in any sort of short term way > Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific > references? keep shooting yourself in the foot, sam. what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom >>> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available >>> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > keep shooting yourself in the foot, sam. <laughing> > what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? <laughing> In article <b0tp64pu0js5ctvkfbkji704j5nk1p2fke@4ax.com>, dave hillstrom says... > >> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available > >> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? If'n I recall correctly, wasn't your buddy Njikkie from teh vjiking froup a physicist? Signature"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds" >> > ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >> > was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few more >to get a dual degree. ditto but engineers eat better, generally. i wonder why that is, hmmmm? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom >>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>>> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > but engineers eat better, generally. You mean overweight... and related health problems? > i wonder why that is, hmmmm? Too much food... not enough pulling out of the hair at the chalk board. >>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid >>>> 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > i wonder why that is, hmmmm? Because they would use straigt lines to direct the food to the mouth instead of "curved lines" that are considered straight and instead shove the food up thier nose. :) SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman > >>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid > >>>> 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > instead of "curved lines" that are considered straight and instead > shove the food up thier nose. astronauts vs cavemen weapons to be decided who wins? arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven >>>>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid >>>>>> 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > who wins? The person that gets to pick the weapons usually wins if they think correctly about it at all. The cave man gave the astronaut a dead fly, And then he picked up his club for his weapon. :) SignatureJames M Driscoll Jr Spaceman > >> > ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i > >> > was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > i wonder why that is, hmmmm? Because they are more directly tied to the profit channel. People are not paid according to their long-term impact on society. If that were the case, then teachers would be paid better than engineers. Is the fat content of your head tied to your wallet? PD >> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. >> so your point is incorrect. > > But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of semiconductors? yes. and what a pain it was. then, since im specialized in control and uC system design, as well as manufacturing systems, i promptly forgot it. two of my electrical engineer frat bros, however, were put through the semiconductor post-grad hell at Cornell before going to serve their time at semiconductor fabs. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom >>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>> was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > then, since im specialized in control and uC system design, as well as > manufacturing systems, i promptly forgot it. That's a shame. > two of my electrical engineer frat bros, however, were put through the > semiconductor post-grad hell at Cornell before going to serve their [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom >>>ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>>was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > then, since im specialized in control and uC system design, as well as > manufacturing systems, i promptly forgot it. It's nice to know what to ask the fab for when you need to nudge the process to rebalance a device to meet an operating requirement (like the radar has to wake up at -55C and be able to dissipate full power after soaking all day over hot tarmac). > two of my electrical engineer frat bros, however, were put through the > semiconductor post-grad hell at Cornell before going to serve their > time at semiconductor fabs. Some peoples just loves the smell of arsine in the morning. Signaturenuts > >> those packages are often called "hocky pucks" by the engineers that > >> use them every day in high power designs. and they are simply [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > thanks for playing. please try again. Don't you love this physicist bullshit artist hubris? Oh sure, ANYBODY can just crank out a 1000 amp switch! Bwahahaha! I would love to see old Uncle Al build just ONE SOLID STATE DIODE from scratch let alone a hockey puck array! It's easy Al! Just a little sand here and a little doping there and voila! You have a working electric car! I challenge you Al, give us the procedure for building just ONE solid state diode? I'm willing to bet you have ZERO idea even of the theory let alone the practical information as to how to actually construct one! Bullshit artist. >>>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > thanks for playing. good luck next time. The clever part is making a PWM commutator look like a slab of wonderbread? Signaturenuts > > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 It was an Elect Eng dumb a.s!! They are the ones that develop semiconductor devices or at least design the switching circuits. K. >> > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >> > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >K. very true! ah, a sign of intelligence has emerged. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an > E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size > of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody > got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as sh.t wasn't an artist. Uncle Al, you are WAY out of your league here! It sure as hell wasn't a physicist that came up with how to switch 1000 amps either! They'd have about as much clue of that technology as you do...namely none. Lessee what's a flame for a person even MORE stoopid than a moron? Oh yeah. CHEMIST. > > Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an > > E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CHEMIST. Uncle Al -hoisted by his own petard!! K. > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers > and, of all things, architects and artists. doesnt faraday get credit for currents? or franklin? arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven >> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >doesnt faraday get credit for currents? >or franklin? faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing: >>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond >that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that. ought to put his a.s in a cage. SignatureA Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz Accept No Substitute >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >ought to put his a.s in a cage. and here i thought he had been. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, > >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > and here i thought he had been. that was captain christopher pike arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven >> >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, >> >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >that was captain christopher pike and here we have another example of just how grounded physicists are. mheh. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom [snip obvious trolling] Knock it off. > >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones... > you know, the stuff you use, Jade. Not to mention the world wide web. >> >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >> >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Not to mention the world wide web. engineers and software geeks. not physicists. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > engineers and software geeks. not physicists. Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva. > -- > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom >> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva. i will. however... physicists made secure websites for trade? physicists made search engines? physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks. physicists AND engineers might have made arpanet and various other networks, but engineers and software geeks make what we call the web The Web. not physicists. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats > mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks. Now you are just propagandizing for the hell of it. The question was whether physicists have done anything of any value lately. They have, and several examples have been provided. Then you follow it up with complaints that value has been ADDED to the work of physicists by mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks. That is true, but it doesn't detract from the value of the original contribution by the physicists. The Wright brothers innovated powered, heavier-than-air flight. Is that contribution diminished because others came along after and added passenger seats and little tables that fold out from the arm rests? Perhaps you mean to goad by demanding a practical contribution that physicists have made lately that no one from any other profession has touched? Perhaps you just mean to goad. Perhaps it doesn't matter that you don't know what the f*k you're talking about when you're goading. PD > physicists AND engineers might have made arpanet and various other > networks, but engineers and software geeks make what we call the web [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats > mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks. In a way I feel sorry for you hillstrom... Certainly there are innovators among the non-scientist... and they serve a very useful function in the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should learn from who the real breakthroughs come from. > >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should > learn from who the real breakthroughs come from. ---------- yes that is the question now no paper fiddler mathematician has contributed to technology except may be a few exceptions that i am not aware now the question is who did the real **big ,massive contributions!!* and it is surely not paper methematiciens scince advance is done only by trial and eror CONFRONTING REALITY OF NATURE toomany cases of adavnce were dont just by accidence of experimental scientists that were fiddling with experiments or experiments RESULTS !! not just paper fiddlings AND NO ARMECHAIR CROOKS WITH BIG MOUTHS ATB Y.Porat --------------------- >> >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >the question is who did the real **big ,massive contributions!!* >and it is surely not paper methematiciens i would agree with that except for the important military and commercial applications of game theory, at which mathematicians excel at. >scince advance is done only by trial and eror >CONFRONTING REALITY OF NATURE [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Y.Porat >--------------------- -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:06:47 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > at. >----------------------- ok now BTW whether we like it or not (good or wrong ...) and sad as it might be ---- i think it is a fact that military needs ever since along history contributed hugely for advance of science!! (:-) !! ------------------------ ATB Y.Porat ---------------------------- > >scince advance is done only by trial and eror > >CONFRONTING REALITY OF NATURE [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > the privileges of the new office. here here!!" > -dave hillstrom >> >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >Y.Porat >--------------------- You, sir, make good sense. Jade >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should > learn from who the real breakthroughs come from. you mean things like the first op-amp? (which i saw, and was about 6 inches by 5 inches in size) things like that? it just so happens i once met the engineer/manager who was heading the team in the 60's. no physicists on the team. how about reynolds wrap? what about power tools? what about automated manufacturing equipment? engineers and inventors. no physicists. come on, now. youve said the real innovators for the last x number of years are physicists. tell me then, what have they innovated thats so great? instead of just trying to ~tell~ me im wrong, why not prove it with some facts and examples, hmmm? is it because you cant? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom >>>>>On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > once met the engineer/manager who was heading the team in the 60's. > no physicists on the team. What about this won (1) aka Philbrick GAP/R K2-W? I was using these back in the olden days. With a Philbrick quarter square multiplier. They worked pretty good. For calculating cardiac output from flow and pressure measurements. Amplifyin' and integratin' and filterin' and multiplyin' and phase detecting. First on dogs. Then on people. You could fit about 20-30 on a rack mount chassis and put knobs and switches and connectors and panel lights on a panel with rub-on letters over semi-gloss white enamel. Looked awesome. Signaturenuts >>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > switches and connectors and panel lights on a panel with rub-on > letters over semi-gloss white enamel. Looked awesome. Oh. I forgot the link: http://www.philbrickarchive.org/ Signaturenuts > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker" > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jade Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? 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