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Schrodinger equation made easy

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Materion - 06 Jul 2008 22:48 GMT
For those who look for intuitive insight in Quantum Physics, I
published a video sequence on the Schrödinger equation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEMVJYbTu8

You may see the Schrodinger equation as a general law that is valid
for any rotating arrow-like object, microscopic or macroscopic: i d|A>/
dt = omega |A>

Kind regards,
Arjen Dijksman
John Schutkeker - 07 Jul 2008 14:22 GMT
Materion <materion@free.fr> wrote in news:fca33b13-ad48-4228-b61e-
a3046258f145@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> For those who look for intuitive insight in Quantum Physics, I
> published a video sequence on the Schrödinger equation:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Kind regards,
> Arjen Dijksman

Thank you.  That's better than most of what we get in here, although
still too calm.  You need to take a note from Walter Lewin's text and
shout everything with a tone of enthusiasm.  That's what makes the kids
want to listen.  I found myself drifting off to sleep during the
presentation, but then, I was already quite tired.  Your video is
infinitely better than the relativity deniers and the other crackpots we
have in here.

And it reminded me of something that should have already been
instinstive for me.  In fact a good summary might be to tie it together
with circular motion, which students will hopefully have seen in high
school physics.  Thus there's just a slight generalization, by having
moved to the complex plane.
Y.Porat - 07 Jul 2008 15:23 GMT
On Jul 7, 4:22 pm, John Schutkeker <jschutke...@sbcglobal.net.nospam>
wrote:
> Materion <mater...@free.fr> wrote in news:fca33b13-ad48-4228-b61e-
> a3046258f...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> school physics.  Thus there's just a slight generalization, by having
> moved to the complex plane.

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Very nice !!
i can see you are a very promising young man!

i lke your connection between abstract formulas
and real physical  models
now
i ahve some tips of an old man
and i hope you will rememer them:
1
the mathematical equations for a rotating object
are similar or identical to a VIBRATION OBJECT!!
and **a vibrating object** is IMHO
after a long resarch about the structure of matter
much closer to reality!!

2
i liked your connections of vectors
because it reminded me my finding about
the
CAIN OF ORBITALS IDEA AND FINDINGS!!

according to that
orbitals (even of different orders)
can combine to
**chain of orbitals **
that chain of orbitals can go much further
in following  reality than the single
Schrodinger  equation  is following more complicated
elements!

3
if you like i can send you my book:
'A model of the Atom and the nucleus '    free

i am sure that as i got the impression from your video
you  could make a great use of it for advance
in a better languge  that will ' talk' to mathematicians as well

ps
with  your permission i added it to the sci particle ng
if not i will erase it there

ATB
Y.Porat
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Materion - 07 Jul 2008 20:58 GMT
On Jul 7, 3:22 pm, John Schutkeker <jschutke...@sbcglobal.net.nospam>
wrote:

> Thank you.  That's better than most of what we get in here, although
> still too calm.  You need to take a note from Walter Lewin's text and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> school physics.  Thus there's just a slight generalization, by having
> moved to the complex plane.

Thanks. It's a shame I didn't know about Walter Lewin... I graduated
at the same university as he did in Holland, but 25 years later and
after that I had very little contact with the world of institutional
physics. Yes, I'll try to make it more lively in my next sequences and
could make a summary of the way Schrödinger's equation may be applied
to ordinary objects.

Kind regards
Arjen
John Schutkeker - 07 Jul 2008 23:41 GMT
> On Jul 7, 3:22 pm, John Schutkeker <jschutke...@sbcglobal.net.nospam>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> could make a summary of the way Schrödinger's equation may be applied
> to ordinary objects.

You're welcome.  You could also tie it in with the spinors that
electrical engineers use to describe vectors that rotate with a specific
frequency.  I think that they use it for resonant circuits, and not EM.

I think there's another, completely different, kind of spinor that's a
from string theory or astrophysics, but that's not the one I mean.  You
continental Europeans are really good at physics, and I wish we had more
like you over here in America.  Over here, nobody has a clue about
physics, and the dew of us that do, just kind of swim through a sea of
ignorant people.
 
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