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Natural Science Forum / Physics / General Physics / July 2008We will hold you hostage for $20.00 per day
Today many people think that being held prisoner or hostage is the highest qualification for a president. If you are contemplating running for the presidency or some high office, and are anxious to improve your credentials, please get in touch with me. Our organization can hold you hostage for $20.00 per day economy class, and $200.00 per day deluxe. Rates subject to change depending upon the value of the dollar with respect to the price of oil. -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos And how is this related to physics? > Today many people think that being held prisoner or hostage > is the highest qualification for a president. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- > And how is this related to physics? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > -- Thanks Sammy, for continuing to be a faithful reader of my posts. Regarding your question: 'And how is this related to physics?", it occurred to me that as many of the posters in sci.physics are megalomaniacs, and many posters seem bent on achieving immortality, by warping through worm holes to new worlds, or via time travel, or by becoming the next Maxwell, Newton, Galileo, Faraday, Edison, Planck, Bohr, etc. that some more practical sorts might aspire to immortality by engaging in politics, and I wanted to offer them our services to assist them with their quest. Where do you want to go today? -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos > and many posters seem bent on achieving immortality, > by warping through worm holes to new worlds, > or via time travel, or by becoming the next > Maxwell, Newton, Galileo, Faraday, Edison, Planck, Bohr, etc. Who would want to be any of those guys... I want to stay me... Sam I would like to be Brad Pitt so I could go to bed with his wife,also with his money I could have Maine lobsters every day. Bert > Sam I would like to be Brad Pitt so I could go to bed with his > wife,also with his money I could have Maine lobsters every day. Bert You don't surprise me Herb! But you'd be better of being a college student taking, working hard at, and passing a freshman physics class. In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >Today many people think that being held prisoner or hostage >is the highest qualification for a president. There are some people who think there are only 200 police in Peking, too. But they're loons. > In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > But they're loons. My pal Shirley Cohen, dba "Buck Mulligan" makes a good point when she suggests that the people who "think that being held prisoner or hostage is the highest qualification for a president" are "loons". Thanks for bringing up this point Shirley. Considering that you are a "loon", I suppose that this means you'll be voting for McCain, and supporting Betancourt for the Colombia presidency.  SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** >> In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > My pal Shirley Cohen, dba "Buck Mulligan" Gees, goober, you're almost as good a "Net Detektive" as you are a ... Wait... you're really no good at ANYTHING, are you?? In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >is the highest qualification for a president" >are "loons". As usual, demented "Tom Potter" has trouble reading and comprehending. That's why he had to get himself a mail-order bride, instead of a real one. I said: >> There are some people who think there are only 200 police in Peking, >> too. >> >> But they're loons. People who claim there are only 200 policemen in Peking are loons. That would be you, Tom. You're a loon. > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > People who claim there are only 200 policemen in Peking are loons. > That would be you, Tom. You're a loon. I am pleased to see to see that my pal Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" continues to be a faithful reader of my posts, and that my posts affect her emotionally. Hopefully, Shirley will read a lot, observe a lot, and THINK a lot, and some day she may be able to actually address messages, rather than use Institutionalized Bigotry to attack messengers. The definition of "bigot" is: "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own." To read the stories of a few of the many folks who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry visit the web site below. <http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html> Keep reading my posts Shirley, and stay in touch. You pal, -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >rather than use Institutionalized Bigotry >to attack messengers. Sadly, anything you say can't be trusted, since you are a proven liar. You will note the fact that you never deny making the claim that there are only 200 police in Peking. Tom Potter. Proven Liar. > In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Tom Potter. Proven Liar. And who the hell is "Shirley Cohen"?? Does he just pick random names out of the phone book? Just MORE lies, I guess. > In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Tom Potter. Proven Liar. Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" Proven bigot. Proven phony. Proven Johnny One Note. Good night Shirley. Your pal, SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" More lunacy from His Loonship, Tom Potter. >Proven bigot. Proven phony. Proven Johnny One Note. Your autobiography doesn't belong here, Potter. You're a proven liar, with your crazy "there are only 200 police in Peking" claim. > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Your autobiography doesn't belong here, Potter. You're a proven liar, > with your crazy "there are only 200 police in Peking" claim. Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" AKA "Miss Jeanie One Note" strikes again! As some may know, Shirley played the lead role in Carmen for several years, and she got so she didn't know if she was Carmen or Cohen. ( And her posts clearly reveal this.) SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > if she was Carmen or Cohen. > ( And her posts clearly reveal this.) "Tom Potter", AKA "The Village Loon" STILL doesn't know what he's talking about. In talk.politics.guns Sam Buckland <nothing@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >"Tom Potter", AKA "The Village Loon" STILL doesn't know >what he's talking about. I suspect Tom went off the deep end ever since his wife served him dinner one night and then answered his question, "Say, I haven't seen Fido all day today, where did he go?" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-takes-dog-off-the-menu-for-ol ympics-865825.html > In talk.politics.guns Sam Buckland <nothing@invalid.invalid> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > dinner one night and then answered his question, "Say, I haven't seen > Fido all day today, where did he go?" Hey Shirley, if you read Lewis and Clark's report on their trip across America, you will find that they ate a lot of dog meat, and reported that their men were very healthy as a result. When they ate buffalo and deer meat they got sick, and when they ate the dof meat that the indians sold to them, they got well. Check it out Shirley. SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns Sam Buckland <nothing@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >trip across America, you will find that they ate >a lot of dog meat, Normal people don't CHOOSE to eat dog meat unless they are desperate and starving. Clark never ate any. In the dry areas of what is now eastern Washington, in fact, where there was little if any game and the only other choice was dried salmon, usually impregnated with sand, the men came to prefer dog. Their favorite foods were always elk, beaver tail, and buffalo, and when they were struggling up the Missouri the men ate prodigious amounts of it, up to nine pounds of meat per man per day. But dogs would do if dogs were all that they could get. Only Clark abstained. He couldn't bring himself to eat dog meat. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1204_031204_lewisclark_2.html >and reported that their men were very healthy as a result. As a result of not starving? Or are you attempting to tell us that dog meat is somehow healthier for you than other meat? What kind of lie are you trying to spin here, Potter? >When they ate buffalo and deer meat they got sick, >and when they ate the dof meat that the indians >sold to them, they got well. And there are only 200 police in Peking and Chinese police don't wear sunglasses. Do you really expect ANYONE to believe ANYTHING you say without proof, Potter? I mean, I've already proven you to be a notorious liar. > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > As a result of not starving? Or are you attempting to tell us that dog > meat is somehow healthier for you than other meat? Some plains Native Americans ate dog meat since it was handy (dogs hung around the place, and could be easily clubbed at will). However, they preferred buffalo, which is one of the healthiest (and tastiest) meats available. In a way, it's too bad that cattle became the main 'meat crop'; it could have been buffalo (healthier: higher in iron, vitamins, minerals, Beta-Carotene, and essential fatty acids, as well as having an excellent ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6 acids). > What kind of lie are you trying to spin here, Potter? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > I mean, I've already proven you to be a notorious liar. Excerpts from the Journals of Lewis and Clark. =============================== "Captain Lewis, Fort Clatsop, 1 January 1806 Our party, from necessity having been obliged to subsist some length of time on dogs, have now become extremely fond of their flesh. It is worthy of remark that while we lived principally on the flesh of this animal, we were much more healthy, strong, and more fleshy than we had been since we left the buffalo country. For my own part, I have become so perfectly reconciled to the dog that I think it an agreeable food and would prefer it vastly to lean venison or elk." "Captain Clark, 9 October 1805 Loaded and set out at 7 o'clock. Passed a creek on the larboard with wide cotton willow bottoms, having passed an island and a rapid. We arrived at the head of a very bad riffle, at which place we landed. After viewing this riffle, two canoes were taken over very well. The third stuck on a rock which took us an hour to get her off, which was effected without her receiving a greater injury than a small split in her side, which was repaired in a short time. We purchased fish and dogs of those people, dined, and proceeded on" So much for the knowledge and credibility of Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" AKA "Miss Jeanie One Note". SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >country. For my own part, I have become so perfectly reconciled to the dog that I think it an agreeable food >and would prefer it vastly to lean venison or elk." Yet the narrative continues.... "Sergeant Glass calculated that between December 1, 1805 and March 20, 1806, the parties hunters bagged 131 elk and 20 deer. The group also dined on wapato roots, candlefish, sturgeon, whale blubber, and a few dogs." Looks like they got tired of eating dog, even though it was so "healthy." In fact, even today, only deviants eat dogs. Civilized people tend to keep them as companions and pets. >So much for the knowledge and credibility of >Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" AKA "Miss Jeanie One Note". "200 police in Peking," Liar Tom Potter. > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > "200 police in Peking," LiarTom Potter. Some people claim that "only deviants eat <pork>". Some people claim that "only deviants eat <animals>". -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >> "200 police in Peking," LiarTom Potter. > >Some people claim that "only deviants eat <pork>". >Some people claim that "only deviants eat <animals>". But MOST people agree- only deviants eat dogs, and Tom Potter is a proven liar. > In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But MOST people agree- only deviants eat dogs, and Tom Potter is a > proven liar. deviant - a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm. Everyone is a "deviant" somewhere. For example, in a society of rational, intelligent, honest, moral people "Buck Mulligan" would be a "deviant". And the folks who don't accept "Buck Mulligan's" claim that he has ESP and can read the minds of "MOST people" would also consider "Buck Mulligan" a "deviant". SignatureTom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >deviant - a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm. That would include anyone who eats dogs- and particularly anyone who attempts to claim they are "healthy" for you. That's as dishonest as, oh, say, trying to claim there are only 200 police in Peking. That's the lie you tried to pass off, isn't it Potter? Sounds like a good deal. Does that include three meals a day,and cable TV? Better than sleeping on NYC streets Bert > Some people claim that "only deviants eat <pork>". > Some people claim that "only deviants eat <animals>". But *everyone* agrees "only deviants think there are only 200 police in Beijing". In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Shirley Cohen AKA "Buck Mulligan" AKA "Miss Jeanie One Note" strikes again! The truth hurts, doesn't it? >As some may know, >Shirley played the lead role in Carmen for several years, >and she got so she didn't know >if she was Carmen or Cohen. >( And her posts clearly reveal this.) As all DO know, Tom Potter is a notorious liar, best known for his false claims that there are "only 200 policemen in Peking" and "Chinese police don't wear sunglasses." > Today many people think that being held prisoner or hostage > is the highest qualification for a president. No, but such experiences do tend to reveal the strength (or lack) of character of the individual who is subjected to that. Particularly when it includes torture, deprivation, etc. McCain has been through hell, and shown his moral fiber. Obama has not. Now is that the highest qualification for President? Hardly, but it does help to know that the person has some intestinal fortitude and spine and wont wimp out if the going gets tough. On Jul 7, 5:03 am, "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: > > Today many people think that being held prisoner or hostage > > is the highest qualification for a president. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > includes torture, deprivation, etc. McCain has been through hell, and shown > his moral fiber. McLame wasn't even tortured. (though he should have been to knock some sense into him). He made the whole thing up. > McCain gets backing of former jailer > Former captor denies account of torture, says McCain made it up for votes > The Associated Press > updated 5:38 p.m. MT, Fri., June. 27, 2008 > HAIPHONG, Vietnam - John McCain has an unusual endorsement - from the > Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a > POW and now considers him a friend. > "If I were an American voter, I would vote for Mr. John McCain," Tran > Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city > of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger > version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners. > At the same time, he denies prisoners of war were tortured. Despite > detailed POW accounts and physical wounds, Duyet claims the presumed > Republican presidential nominee made up beatings and solitary confinement > in an attempt to win votes. > His statements seem to echo the communist leadership's overall line on > America: It insists the torture claims are fabricated, but that Vietnam > now considers the U.S. a friend and wants to lay the past to rest. Duyet > said one of the reasons he likes McCain for president is the candidate's > willingness to forgive and look to the future. > Former jailer calls McCain an old buddy > Duyet, 75, grew testy during the interview when repeatedly questioned > about torture and why so many other former POWs say they too were > mistreated. He preferred to talk about McCain as an old buddy. > His photo collection doesn't include one of him with POW McCain, and he > said they have not met on any of McCain's postwar visits to Vietnam. But [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Americans and up to 3 million Vietnamese, he said they listened to each > others' views. > "He's tough, has extreme political views and is very conservative," Duyet > said. "He's very loyal to the U.S. military, to his beliefs and to his > country. In all of our debates, he never admitted that the war was a > mistake." > Duyet also talked about prisoner volleyball games and said the captives > were fed the same meals as average wartime Vietnamese in Hanoi. The same > propaganda is depicted in photos of smiling American POWs displayed at the > Hoa Lo prison, now a museum for tourists. > McCain spent 5 1/2 years behind bars in Hanoi. His flight suit and > parachute were recently added to the museum display, which includes a > recording of bombs falling and air raid sirens shrieking. > McCain still bears the evidence of his wounds and has described being > repeatedly bound and beaten by his captors. After his plane was hit by a > surface-to-air missile during a bombing mission over Hanoi in 1967, McCain > ejected and suffered a broken leg, two broken arms, and was briefly > knocked unconscious. The Vietnamese mob who found him smashed his shoulder > and he was bayoneted. > He says medical attention was delayed in an attempt to get him to reveal > information and he was held in solitary confinement for over two years. > Jailer says McCain lied about torture to win votes > Other former POWs also say they were tortured by communist forces at the > jail, and many say they still suffer physical pain from it. > "They are liars. What they said is not true," said Duyet, who was a jailer > at Hoa Lo from 1968 until the POW release in 1973, serving as prison chief > the last three years. Duyet claimed McCain "invented that story that he > was tortured and beaten to win votes." > Asked for a response, the McCain campaign referred The Associated Press to > Orson Swindle, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was imprisoned with > McCain. Swindle said Duyet "has no credibility on every utterance he > makes." > "For him to say that no one was tortured, he's a damn liar, and the > history books in the aftermath of Vietnam were replete with stories of > what prisoners went through. I've got friends that died up there from > torture." > "He says John McCain would make a great president. How the hell does he > know? He has absolutely no credibility," Swindle added. > McCain has returned to Vietnam several times and visited what's left of > the old prison, whose pilots' section has been replaced by a gleaming > high-rise of offices, apartments and shops. > McCain was instrumental in pushing for normal relations between the two > former foes, and the friendship was highlighted by Prime Minister Nguyen > Tan Dung's trip to see President Bush at the White House on Wednesday. > McCain's wife, Cindy, was in southern Vietnam last week doing charity > work. She said if her husband wins the election the couple would delight > in paying a presidential visit to the country. > If that happens, Duyet said, "I hope to meet with him again as two old > friends. At that time, I would toast to congratulate him as U.S. > president. > "We would talk about the future, and we would not talk about the past." |
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