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Tom Sawyer and Physics

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W. eWatson - 09 Jul 2008 23:11 GMT
I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
They had gone missing for more than 24 hours, and were last seen heading for
the river. Although they had a river accident, they were safe. The drag'n
method was interesting, and not what I expected. Tom and Huck watched from
an island shore as a boat drifted by firing a cannon every once in awhile.
Tom explained that would cause bodies to rise from the water. If so, what's
the physics behind it?
hhc314@yahoo.com - 10 Jul 2008 07:21 GMT
> I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
> where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Tom explained that would cause bodies to rise from the water. If so, what's
> the physics behind it?

The underlying premise is that once the bodys have sufficiently
decomposed they will float.
The firing of the cannons is a long obsoleted practice intended to
dislodge the corpse from underwater entrapments.

I was raised on the banks of the Delaware River, and every summer a
few people drowned. As a kid, it was a sport to watch the rescue crews
try to find the bodies using grapling hooks to drag the river for the
body,  The use of cannons in recovery efforts has been obsolete for
over 100 years and regarded as producing poor results even when it was
used.

Something worth noting, it you ever see a a grapling hook, you realize
immediately that it is not a rescue device!  Their enitire purpose is
for the capture and recovery of corpses in various states of
decomposition.

Harry C,
W. eWatson - 11 Jul 2008 03:16 GMT
>> I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
>> where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
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>
> Harry C,

Yes, it surely seems gone from the scene, and replaced by modern means.

Maybe this is fodder for Myth Busters!
PD - 10 Jul 2008 13:42 GMT
> I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
> where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Tom explained that would cause bodies to rise from the water. If so, what's
> the physics behind it?

Experiment:
Put some things with specific gravity just barely above 1 in a filled
bathtub. Put your hand vertically in the water with your fingertips a
couple inches above the bottom. With your other hand, slap your
forearm to simulate the recoil from a cannon firing. Watch what
happens to the things resting on the bottom of the tub.

PD
W. eWatson - 11 Jul 2008 03:14 GMT
>> I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
>> where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> PD
Interesting, but, nevertheless, I can see, as the poster above stated, the
whole idea became obsolete.
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 11 Jul 2008 03:25 GMT
> >> I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
> >> where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
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> Interesting, but, nevertheless, I can see, as the poster above stated, the
> whole idea became obsolete.

Not to mention that people these days get a bit twitchy when someone
goes around firing off a cannon...

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Bob Cain - 18 Jul 2008 21:45 GMT
> Not to mention that people these days get a bit twitchy when someone
> goes around firing off a cannon...

Seems to me that people these days get a bit twitchy over just about anything at
all.

Bob
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Sue... - 11 Jul 2008 04:28 GMT
> > I happened upon an old movie, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and noted a scene
> > where the good citizen of Hannibal were drag'n the river for Tom and Huck.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> forearm to simulate the recoil from a cannon firing. Watch what
> happens to the things resting on the bottom of the tub.

That is a stupid idea. I am the only poster to this newsgroup
that ever gets near a bathtub.  Just at the moment my
clawfoot is hauling a Seth Thomas Regulator to
Pluto and back to test your silly  supernatural notions.

I suggest digging up Einstein and Feynman, put
em in a real river, shoot a real cannon and
see who surfaces first.  We can kill (pardon pun)
several birds at once that way.

Sue...

> PD
 
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