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Natural Science Forum / Physics / General Physics / July 2008Where do atoms go?
Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The sun comes out and the water evaporates. The water goes but what happens to the water's atoms? Do all atoms cease to exist when water evaporates? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, just curious. Phantom scojocupcake > Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of > hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Phantom scojocupcake If water is comprised of atoms and the water goes, so too the atoms! I guess it was a dumb question. :) Phantom scojocupcake >> Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of >> hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >If water is comprised of atoms and the water goes, so too the atoms! I >guess it was a dumb question. They stay attached to each other (eg as molecules of water) and float off into the air in the form of water vapour... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation | Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of | hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | Forgive me if this is a dumb question, just curious. The one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of hydrogen is called a molecule and IS the water. When the water evaporates the molecules separate and float away, and depending on local conditions may sometimes be seen, like this: http://static.flickr.com/44/159231837_d2eae01597.jpg but more usually like this: http://www.ceh.ac.uk/sci_programmes/images/Forest-mist-web.jpg and like this: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/222873844_79fd6f3524.jpg?v=1156346848 Then the molecules clump together again to make drops of water, like this: http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/rain.jpg You may have seen rain, it is quite common. | Phantom scojocupcake > Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of > hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The > sun comes out and the water evaporates. The water goes but what > happens to the water's atoms? Do all atoms cease to exist when water > evaporates? Gaseous water. Gaseous water is odorless, colorless, tasteless, and it's awfully hard to tell when it's around. However, you may notice that some of this gaseous water rises to an elevation where the air is significantly cooler, and then the gaseous water condenses to liquid water droplets, which hang in the air awhile quite visibly. In fact, some people see bunny rabbits and faces in those clouds. > Forgive me if this is a dumb question, just curious. > > Phantom scojocupcake On Jul 10, 5:44 am, Phantom scojocupcake <bo...@myself.com> wrote: >> Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of >> hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Gaseous water. Gaseous water is odorless, colorless, tasteless, and > it's awfully hard to tell when it's around. Try a.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygrometer > On Jul 10, 5:44 am, Phantom scojocupcake <bo...@myself.com> wrote: > >> Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Try a.. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygrometer Yeah - it's real hard to detect water, http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/images/watopt.gif  SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the cores or stars or supernovae explosions, etc. So now you should be able to figure it out. " With respect, that can't be correct. When I die, my atoms, that atoms that comprise my body, don't exist forever. If they did I'd still be alive! LOL My bones will remain but the atoms that comprise the rest of my body - skin, organs etc - don't remain forever. Even if they do remain forever - they're not the atoms in my body as my body has gone - so where do they go to stay 'forever'? Thanks for the answers regarding the water.:) scojomoo > " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive > (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that comprise my body, don't exist forever. If they did I'd still be > alive! That's not correct. Your body is not alive by virtue of the presence of those atoms. You are alive by virtue of the fact that those atoms are configured in complex molecules, sometimes tens of thousands of atoms together in a very particular shape, and those molecules are actively engaged in a delicate balance of chemical processes. What happens when you die is: first, that delicate balance of chemical processes slows and stops (and other ones associated with decay set in), and second, the atoms lose their association with those complex molecules and decay into smaller molecules that are useless for sustaining life. But in no way do your atoms disappear. They just lose their *organization* and their *activity*. > LOL My bones will remain but the atoms that comprise the rest > of my body - skin, organs etc - don't remain forever. Even if they do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > scojomoo >> " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive >> (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > sustaining life. But in no way do your atoms disappear. They just lose > their *organization* and their *activity*. Krebb's Cycle? /BAH > " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive > (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > remain forever - they're not the atoms in my body as my body has gone > - so where do they go to stay 'forever'? Idiot. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 Birds of a feather stick to getter. That is true of like elements Bert > " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive > (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > scojomoo Actually the atoms that make up your body do persist - just not in the same form. For example, if some of the carbon in you reacts with oxygen to make carbon dioxide it will look like it's vanished because carbon dioxide is a clear gas. But the atoms of carbon will still exist. If you think that's hard to grasp... Some time ago scientists figured out that many of the atoms we are made of could only be formed in the nuclear reactors we call stars.. http://www.thebiggestideas.com/cgi-bin/viewps.cgi?we_are_all_made_of_starsps.txt On Jul 11, 2:52 pm, "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > > " I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive > > (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - "Yesterdays potatoes." Richard Feynman > Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of > hydrogen. It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. The [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Phantom scojocupcake I give you a hint: Atoms are forever unless they are radioactive (most isotopes are), or involved in nuclear reaction, say in the cores or stars or supernovae explosions, etc. So now you should be able to figure it out. Another hint: Where does rain come from? > Water is H2O - that is one atom of oxygen bound to two atoms of > hydrogen. Two atoms of hydrogen bound to one atom of oxygen. Three atoms bound in a molecule - but what of autoionization, [H=][OH-]=10^(-14)? The bullshit meter's needle quivers in anticipation. > It's raining and there's a big puddle on the pavement. Somebody was a crap engineer. More likely somebody was a crap Mexican. > The > sun comes out and the water evaporates. Happens in the dark, too, and if the water is frozen. > The water goes but what > happens to the water's atoms? Do all atoms cease to exist when water > evaporates? Yup. The whole of the oceans disappeared long ago as the hydrological cycle dewaterficated the Earth. Desiccration! The rise in sea level is due to commercial overfishing of sponges. What you think is water is the work of the Devil to fool you. > Forgive me if this is a dumb question, just curious. Dumb doesn't hardly begin to quantify your No Child Left Behind ignorance. Pray tell how water can evaporate but leave its molecules behind. What is water but its molecular composition of matter? Explain steam. Hell, explain humidiity. Butanedione is bright yellow as the liquid but deep green as the vapor. MIRACLE! Find the love of Chsist in God's omnipresent revelation. Or go Hindu - 360 million deities can't all be wrong. Or <http://blogs.scienceforums.net/swansont/files/2008/06/index.jpg> Choose wisely. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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