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blues517@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 15:06 GMT

> DOES GOD NEED TO PROVE HE EXISTS?

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Not really, because He already has.
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Bill M - 15 Jul 2008 14:06 GMT

UNPROVEN AND UNLIKELY STORIES LIKE THIS ARE NOT 'PROOF' OF ANYTHING!

THEY ARE JUST WILD STORIES!

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> DOES GOD NEED TO PROVE HE EXISTS?

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Not really, because He already has.
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
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http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath/index.html
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Ed Conrad
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> MAJOR NEWSPAPERS OF THE WORLD

> SCIENCE NEWS GROUPS

> PSEUDOSCIENCE NEWS GROUPS

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sci.anthropology.paleo
dc.smithsonian

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blues517@hotmail.com - 16 Jul 2008 00:21 GMT

> UNPROVEN AND UNLIKELY STORIES LIKE THIS ARE NOT 'PROOF' OF ANYTHING!
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> sci.anthropology.paleo
> dc.smithsonian

This is God, using Copernicus' e-mail .
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Any more snide remarks about my existence
and I'm going to let the lightning bolts fly.
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This is not a threat. It's a promise.
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Sapient Fridge - 16 Jul 2008 07:42 GMT

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blues517@hotmail.com writes

>This is God, using Copernicus' e-mail .
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>Any more snide remarks about my existence
>and I'm going to let the lightning bolts fly.
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>This is not a threat. It's a promise.

At last a chance for you to prove your powers! Go for it then, let
those bolts rip oh holy insane, non-existent one!
...
...
...
...
I'm still waiting...

(Ed Conrad is nuttier than squirrel sh.t, mad as a box of frogs)

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Christopher A. Lee - 15 Jul 2008 15:12 GMT

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>> DOES GOD NEED TO PROVE HE EXISTS?
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>Not really, because He already has.

Where, liar?

But in any case, nobody is asking for what is merely a figment of your
deluded imagination to do anything.

Just that you sociopathic loonies either put up or shut up.

Stop being dishonest.

You know we are talking with you not your pretend friend.

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Jon Green - 15 Jul 2008 15:20 GMT

> (crap)

Oh please, not again.

Jon

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Christopher A. Lee - 15 Jul 2008 15:28 GMT

>> (crap)
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>Oh please, not again.
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>Jon

I wondered what this certifiable lunatic imagined he achieved by
posting this sheer stupidity until I saw the newsgroups:

sci.physics,
cam.misc,
alt.atheism

What's the cam.* hierarchy?

Cambridge?

What have these three groups done to upset this psychopath so he wants
to disrupt them?

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Jon Green - 15 Jul 2008 16:55 GMT

>>> (crap)
>> Oh please, not again.
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> What have these three groups done to upset this psychopath so he wants
> to disrupt them?

It's Cambridge (UK), yes. Mainly we get plagued by racist trolling,
usually cross-posted from rec.org.mensa, but this stuff seems to be on
the upswing.

All of the cross-posted crud seems to be based on the assumptions that
(1) there are Important Things That Academics Need To Know, (2)
Cambridge consists only of academics (present or past), and (3) it's
vitally important that the topics be discussed.

Usually it's either ignored, or there's a bloodbath (beating up a troll
is sometimes fun, if you've the spare time). Either way, it doesn't go
well for the perpetrators.

Jon

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Christopher A. Lee - 15 Jul 2008 17:44 GMT

>>>> (crap)
>>> Oh please, not again.
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>usually cross-posted from rec.org.mensa, but this stuff seems to be on
>the upswing.

Thanks. There's also Cambridge, Massachusetts, home of MIT.

Rec.org.mensa got taken over by the trolls a couple of decades ago as
a "home" group for cross posting contentious stupidity to elicit
responses they would then amateur-psychologise as though they were
unprovoked.

Attempting to refute crackpots or explain things to them, always ends
up in mutual frustration and name calling.

>All of the cross-posted crud seems to be based on the assumptions that
>(1) there are Important Things That Academics Need To Know, (2)
>Cambridge consists only of academics (present or past), and (3) it's
>vitally important that the topics be discussed.

On National Public Radio last Saturday, "This American Life" told the
story of somebody who claimed he could refute Einstein's theory of
relativity and this was so obvious he couldn't understand why
physicists hadn't seen it before. He was upset that physicists weren't
interested.

http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=293

"Bob Berenz had a good job as an electrician. But he wanted to do
something bigger. He came up with an idea for an invention. But as he
studied physics texts to see if his invention could work, he happened
upon the biggest idea of his life: a revelation about physics that
would disprove Einstein, and Newton. That is, if Bob's right. Bob's
friend, Robert Andrew Powell, reports the story. He's a sports writer
and the author of We Own This Game, about youth football. (16-1/2
minutes)"

>Usually it's either ignored, or there's a bloodbath (beating up a troll
>is sometimes fun, if you've the spare time). Either way, it doesn't go
>well for the perpetrators.
>
>Jon

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hhc314@yahoo.com - 15 Jul 2008 18:13 GMT

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:55:16 +0100, Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com>
> Thanks. There's also Cambridge, Massachusetts, home of MIT.

Did you forget Harvard. Crackpot post like these are usually more
associted with Harvard Students, than MIT.

Harry C.

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Christopher A. Lee - 15 Jul 2008 18:15 GMT

>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:55:16 +0100, Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com>
>> Thanks. There's also Cambridge, Massachusetts, home of MIT.
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>Did you forget Harvard. Crackpot post like these are usually more
>associted with Harvard Students, than MIT.

I did - you can tell I'm an engineer from Staffordshire!

>Harry C.

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Jon Green - 16 Jul 2008 10:21 GMT

>>> What's the cam.* hierarchy?
>> It's Cambridge (UK), yes. Mainly we get plagued by racist trolling,
>> usually cross-posted from rec.org.mensa, but this stuff seems to be on
>> the upswing.
>
> Thanks. There's also Cambridge, Massachusetts, home of MIT.

That's why I added "(UK)"! *grin*

I have to wonder whether the trolls think it's the Haaaarvard version
("There may be many others, but they haven't been discaaaaarvard" -- Tom
Lehrer, "The Elements"),

> Attempting to refute crackpots or explain things to them, always ends
> up in mutual frustration and name calling.

True, but usually the trolls get the worst of it, and it can be a lot of
fun for idle moments. ;) Entertaining for the bystanders, too!

Let's face it, we can either suffer it silently, or circle the trolls
and (verbally) beat them into a bloody pulp. Which is more satisfying?

Jon

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DOES GOD NEED TO PROvE HE EXISTS? No, Once Should Be Enough