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Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms

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Sam Wormley - 17 Jul 2008 20:09 GMT
Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
  http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034

  Physicists in the US claim to have used a transmission electron
  microscope (TEM) to see a single hydrogen atom – the first time
  that a TEM has been used to image such a light atom. The
  breakthrough was made by supporting the atom on graphene — a
  sheet of carbon just one atom thick. The team has also been
  able to watch hydrocarbon chains move across the graphene
  surface, suggesting that the technique could be used to study
  the dynamics of biological molecules.

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034
hhc314@yahoo.com - 17 Jul 2008 21:02 GMT
> Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
>    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034
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> See:http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034

Sam, I am a little hesitant to accept this, because the energy
required to shorten the wavelength of an electron to the level where
it could be possile to image a hydrogen atom is far greater than the
energy level required to disrupt the hydrogen atom.

I'm also a bit hesitant to accept any information as fact that is
posted on a commercial website on which you have to sign in to read.

Harry C.
Sam Wormley - 18 Jul 2008 00:03 GMT
>> Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
>>    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034
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> Harry C.

  As you should be, Harry. I wish all of the "science" article were
  accompanied by reference to pre-prints or journal articles...  But
  few are... for what it's worth.. I do try to filter somewhat. A poor
  filter, but still an attempt.

 -Sam
hhc314@yahoo.com - 18 Jul 2008 01:14 GMT
> hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Sam, I hope my comments were not taken as any disrespect to you.
You're about the only poster that still posts here regularly in an
effort to elevate the level of discussions on this newsgroup.  Here I
simply posted certain facts that I certainly believe does not come as
news to you.

I tend to believe that both of us are here trying to elevate the level
of ongoing discussion, both in our own ways.

Harry C.
Sam Wormley - 18 Jul 2008 01:29 GMT
>> hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
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> Harry C.

  Yes--we consciously do (and at least a half dozen others) attempt to
  raise the discussion level. I sincerely thank you, Harry, and the
  others who really do contribute! I came here some years ago expecting
  to learn... as opposed to "teach".  :-(
Jim Black - 18 Jul 2008 01:51 GMT
>> Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
>>    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034
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> Harry C.

They had a link to the original Nature article

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v454/n7202/abs/nature07094.html

which said:

-> We emphasize that we do not claim to have resolved a hydrogen–carbon
-> distance, which would require advanced aberration-corrected
-> instrumentation. However, detecting an isolated hydrogen atom against a
-> nearly invisible background only requires an adequate signal-to-noise
-> ratio.

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srp2inc@gmail.com - 18 Jul 2008 14:05 GMT
> Electron microscope sees single hydrogen atoms
>    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034
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> See:http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/35034

To be isolated in such a structure, a hydrogen atom needs to
be rigidly covalently bound to one of the molecules of the structure
or else it would not say put as the scattering occurs.

So all that remains to possibly be detected is the hydrogen nucleus
(a proton) hanging out.

This means that if "something" was really detected in the process
pertaining to a hydrogen atom, it had to be the hydrogen nucleus.

André Michaud
 
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