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Propellantless propulsion fun 2 (particle accelerators are wonderful)

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Spaceman - 19 Jul 2008 22:35 GMT
Here is a much better use for circular particle accelerators
but in a much smaller scale.
This time we will make an object move in space
"again" without propellant leaving the vehicle at all.

The device is in orbit.

This device is made of 2 mini circular particle accelerators,
and a container that of course has solar panels and such
to gather energy from the sun for it's power source.

The mini circular accelerators are placed like 2 gears
would be configured to spin at the same rate.

When you turn on the devices at the same time, the inertial force
will cause each device to want to spin, but being connected and
opposing the spin, they will actually move in the direction that the push
of the particle is coming from since both inertial forces will
be coming from that direction.

I will explain a bit more:
Lets say we take one mini circular accelerator and place it in
outerspace.
When we "pulse" this device the particle will want to fly around
the path, but of course the equal and opposite reaction will
want to occur to the accelerator ring itself.
Once the ring spins at all , it will not stop spinning since the mass
of the accelerator is greater than that of the particle.
It will of course continue to spin since the particles motion
never reversed to stop it from spinning.
Give it another "pulse of energy and it till gain spin speed"
If you keep doing such you could almost get the ring to
turn pretty close to the speed the particle moves at.

so...
Two such rings connected will initialize propulsive motion.
without any propellant being expelled.
Too simple and yet too advance for NASA "yet".
:)

Get it?
Or is using Newtons forces for my advantage, against the laws
of physics?
:)

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Eric Gisse - 19 Jul 2008 23:03 GMT
On Jul 19, 1:35 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
wrote:
> Here is a much better use for circular particle accelerators
> but in a much smaller scale.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> of the particle is coming from since both inertial forces will
> be coming from that direction.

How can you be a mechanic all your life and write sh.t like this? You
should know better.

By god, this is common sense type sh.t.

> I will explain a bit more:
> Lets say we take one mini circular accelerator and place it in
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> James M Driscoll Jr
> Spaceman

Find a new hobby, spaceshit. You are so unqualified it hurts my brain
to think about it.
Spaceman - 19 Jul 2008 23:09 GMT
> On Jul 19, 1:35 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> By god, this is common sense type sh.t.

What is the problem Eric?
Is the problem that you can't actually find a problem?
Or is the problem you do not know how to use Newtons
laws for yourself instead of against yourself?

>> I will explain a bit more:
>> Lets say we take one mini circular accelerator and place it in
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Find a new hobby, spaceshit. You are so unqualified it hurts my brain
> to think about it.

You brain can't think Newtonian wise because you have been brainwashed
to think Newton stuff is not true.
Poor Eric.
:)

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Spaceman - 21 Jul 2008 02:24 GMT
> Here is a much better use for circular particle accelerators
> but in a much smaller scale.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> push of the particle is coming from since both inertial forces will
> be coming from that direction.

I also need to add that you can not "push" on the particles when
they are on the opposite sides of the force point of the circle
or the motion will of course not occur.
You merely let them flow by the outer points and only push when
they are in the correct position for the forward motion you want.
:)

Propellantless propulsion fun 3... coming soon.
:)

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