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The Shallow discussion of reality in 2 NGs

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Osmium - 21 Jul 2008 04:55 GMT
All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.

Yet modern physics indicates that all these topics concern phenomena
that are at least secondary or further removed from the true basics of
reality.

It's as if one group of ants is discussing the basics of a dropped ice
cream cone while another is discussing why a dead beatle is basic.

Better questions to ask are "What is a dimension?", "Why does math
indicate there are three or eleven or any other number of
dimensions?"  "Why is there eternal inflation?"

Or how about this question, "Of what is a cubic centimeter of a black
hole composed?"  Quarks?

P.S. Despite what you may think the title of this post does not
indicate it is merely a troll.
John Bailey - 21 Jul 2008 13:18 GMT
>All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
>such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.
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>Or how about this question, "Of what is a cubic centimeter of a black
>hole composed?"  Quarks?

From an earlier post of mine, here are similar ones I proposed.
1) Why only 3 spatial dimensions?
2) What sets the direction of time?
3) What happened to the anti-matter?
4) Is the universe finite or infinite?
5) Is there more than one universe?
6) Are there Laws of Physics which completely explain everything?

John
http://tinyurl.com/4uo45p
Androcles - 21 Jul 2008 14:52 GMT
| >All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
| >such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
| John
| http://tinyurl.com/4uo45p

Are there more than two twins?
Are there less than three triplets?
Do the oceans contain water?
Are you completely deranged?
Oh wait... I checked out http://tinyurl.com/4uo45p and
clearly you are. Get back to your crack pipe.
Osmium - 21 Jul 2008 15:44 GMT
> | >All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
> | >such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.
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> Oh wait... I checked outhttp://tinyurl.com/4uo45pand
> clearly you are. Get back to your crack pipe.

Phew, I was almost, but not quite, ignored.
Lars Kecke - 22 Jul 2008 10:02 GMT
John Bailey schrieb:

> From an earlier post of mine, here are similar ones I proposed.
> 1) Why only 3 spatial dimensions?

1/r² power law, stable orbits.

> 2) What sets the direction of time?

Entropy gain. May also have to do with 3)

> 3) What happened to the anti-matter?

CP symmetry violation.

> 4) Is the universe finite or infinite?

Finite.

> 5) Is there more than one universe?

yes, but it doesn't matter, since we can't see anything outside our own
universe.

> 6) Are there Laws of Physics which completely explain everything?

in theory, yes. In praxis we will never be able to predict the course of
a snooker ball after 5 collisions (or anything of similar complexity).

Lars
srp2inc@gmail.com - 21 Jul 2008 15:38 GMT
> All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
> such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> indicate there are three or eleven or any other number of
> dimensions?"

Good questions.

> "Why is there eternal inflation?"

Oops! Can't be fundamental. This is a conclusion drawn from
SR and GR

> Or how about this question, "Of what is a cubic centimeter of a black
> hole composed?"  Quarks?

Same thing for black holes.

André Michaud

> P.S. Despite what you may think the title of this post does not
> indicate it is merely a troll.
Lars Kecke - 22 Jul 2008 09:55 GMT
Osmium schrieb:
> All discussions in this NG concerning a TOE are centered on subjects
> such as inertia, gravity, and the unification of the known forces.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Better questions to ask are "What is a dimension?"

A degree of freedom. Or, if you mean spatial dimension, the number of
mutually orthogonal directions.

>, "Why does math
> indicate there are three or eleven or any other number of
> dimensions?"

To avoid certain anomalies in the theory, so that it retains even a
theoretical chance for meaningful calculations.

>  "Why is there eternal inflation?"

This one is of a different quality; because otherwise the universe would
have collapsed too early for us to evolve and ask this question.

> Or how about this question, "Of what is a cubic centimeter of a black
> hole composed?"

Trick question. What kind of ruler do you use to define this cubic
centimeter?

>  Quarks?

Could be anything. The galactic core black hole only has a density of ~1
(IIRC), so it could even be normal matter. It doesn't matter though,
since all you see from the outside is mass, charge and angular momentum.

Lars
 
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