Energy doesn't exist, it's an imaginary soothsaying construct
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gabydewilde - 21 Nov 2008 03:12 GMT Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet.
When the event does take place the energy goes some place else.
If I have 2 marbles and 1 hole the size of 1 marble one could argue the marbles both have gravitational potential energy.
Dropping one of the marbles into the hole renders the other one neutral.
This means the property potential energy can not be assigned to the marble.
Then most importantly:
We don't have to drop the marble into the hole.
So the soothsaying is no more than wishful thinking.
The predicted event doesn't have to take place so the potential future is mis-predicted.
The word Energy tries to describe motion, gravity, electricity, pressures and what not?
But to pretend one such deemed potential would convert into another 1:1 is always wrong.
We live in an open system, all events are influenced by all other events.
White noise contains all frequencies of vibration.
The unidirectional Æther of white noise is flowing through the earth is bouncing into the molecules the earth is made up of. This partially filters those frequencies out of the white noise. The result is that matter at the planetary surface vibrating on the same bandwidth is now subjected to filtered white noise.
Gravity doesn't have a f.ck to do with potential energy or even with attraction.
It is yo molecules resonating with the remaining sympathetic vibrations of yo Æther.
You may also call it: zero point energy/ dark energy/ stardust / orgone energy/ radiation etc etc bla bla?
Nuclear explosions have nothing to do with splittin sh.t up.
The outer shell of the bomb compresses the inner shell thus therefor pushing it into a higher density/ frequency. Earth, the sun and other planets are also filtering this higher frequency out of the Æther flow.
BOOM! The radiation frequency is inducted into nearby molecules by means of a violent shock wave.
geiger counters don't me sure emitted particles. They measure the lack there of. The particles are coming from the other end people!
The real physics is behind you and energy just doesn't exist other than in the conversation there of.
Any questions?
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Uncle Al - 21 Nov 2008 03:36 GMT > Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > > When the event does take place the energy goes some place else. [snip crap]
Dr. Schund has pioneered the -14 mpg carburetor. It makes fuel as you drive.
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Bill Ward - 21 Nov 2008 04:39 GMT >> Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Dr. Schund has pioneered the -14 mpg carburetor. It makes fuel as you > drive. Only in reverse, though. That's why it never really caught on.
gabydewilde - 21 Nov 2008 04:57 GMT > >> Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Only in reverse, though. That's why it never really caught on. Yes, but Tucker did use aluminum Helicopter engines gravity should do the rest.
Jack Nicholson silicon solar hydrogen car does back up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfONpsFvyM
Bit primitive but it works.
Uncle Al - 21 Nov 2008 16:50 GMT > >> Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Only in reverse, though. That's why it never really caught on. Congress may vote upon a $25 billion bailout. This will finance relocation of the steering wheel to the back seat, facing the trunk. Further allocations will move the gas and brake peddles. Intensive studies promise to redesign the car so it entirely faces in the opposite direction, going backwards as it goes forwards.
The world will then be awash with gasoline and diesel, requiring massive fleets of massive tankers to massively move massive petroleum excesses to massive underground waste storage sequestration sites, possibly in the Middle East. More studies are needed.
Then... We team with Bosch to design the negative mileage fuel injector.
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Bill Ward - 21 Nov 2008 18:27 GMT >> >> Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > massive underground waste storage sequestration sites, possibly in the > Middle East. More studies are needed. Or shift to 100% ethanol fuel and just drink our way out.
> Then... We team with Bosch to design the negative mileage fuel injector. hhc314@yahoo.com - 22 Nov 2008 19:03 GMT > Then... We team with Bosch to design the negative mileage fuel > injector. Now Al, that's plain nasty! Anyone who has even owned a German car knows that its primary weakness in its Bosch electrical system.
For example, when I owned an Opel, the Bosch ignition sysem was so bad that I carried a propane torch with me to dry out the wires and distributor cap before the car would start in cold, wet weather.
Back around 1966, when I worked for EK in Rochester, NY and flew a great deal, when I arrived home and attempted to start my Opel that had been sitting in the airport parking lot for a week, I needed to use the torch. Fellow travelers returning home who drove VWs and Mercedes ran into the same problem, and my little "Berz O Matic" propane torch (which I still own) was shared with many other German made car owners who otherwise would have been left stranded in the Monroe Country Airport parking lot at 9 in the evening.
That's my testimonial to Bosch engineering expertise!
In retrospect, I find this rather strange, since I hold a very high level of respect for German engineering. Unfortunately, German engineering and manufacturing skill does not appear to extend to anything electrical.
Harry C.
gabydewilde - 21 Nov 2008 04:48 GMT > > Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Dr. Schund has pioneered the -14 mpg carburetor. It makes fuel as you > drive. Ah, hello my nobelius friendicus Al.
I'm afraid Dr. Schund didn't provide a link, technical specifications, construction darwings and photolytic plates, should I submit official enqueries?
I did has found this treasure in your chest:
http://members.cox.net/xemist/ecar2.htm "The idea of 1300 pounds of lead acid storage batteries furnishing the driving radius of three gallons of gasoline was truly precious, bordering on European."
European? It appears you have forgotten how cheap Dutch people really are. We cant afford 650 000 gram of batteries, and if we could we will deny the whole thing! no no no and no again!
To prove my point I had designed this long-long ago. http://wind-car.go-here.nl/
In1973 Shell Oil converted this "of the shelve" Opel and it did 160 kilometers per liter. http://www.opel-p1.nl/custom/testcar/Shell%20Opel.htm
For people still measuring with limbs and gardens this is 376 miles per Gallon.
Fear the aquanuclear drive you Petrodollarian you!
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> -- > Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 Uncle Al - 21 Nov 2008 16:43 GMT > > > Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > WE WILL ADD YOUR GENETIC DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. There are few remaining Dutch. The Netherlands is presently a Muslim enclave decorated with outraged East Indians. Blow the dykes!
Dr. Schund does not rest upon his laurels. He exposes them to everybody,
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There ya go, Pilgrim - infinite energy *plus* infinite hydrogen until 14 August 23,146 AD, with refereed literature citations. All it lacks is a $25 billion Federal subsidy with no oversight.
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zzbunker@netscape.net - 21 Nov 2008 17:25 GMT > > > Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > For people still measuring with limbs and gardens this is 376 miles > per Gallon. Well, that's the best thing about measuring with limbs and gardens, Since that's how you make Holograms, RISC, Microcomputers, Fiber Optics, Optiical Computers, CD, DVD, HDTV, Pv Cells, Post Ford Batteries, All-In-One Printers, Elibraries, On-Line-Publishing, HTML, USB, XML, and Post GM Robotics. And you can tell idiots like Physicts to get a job with Chrylser.
> Fear the aquanuclear drive you Petrodollarian you! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Igor - 22 Nov 2008 00:58 GMT Imaginary energy? Sure, but only in Minkowski coordinates.
gabydewilde - 22 Nov 2008 09:03 GMT > Imaginary energy? Please show the energy?
What is it made of?
How do I measure it?
Desertphile - 22 Nov 2008 18:41 GMT > > Imaginary energy?
> Please show the energy? Energy is not a thing: it is a how much.
> What is it made of? Energy is not made of anything: it is a how much.
> How do I measure it? Energy is a measurement, genius.
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BURT - 22 Nov 2008 20:55 GMT > > Imaginary energy? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How do I measure it? In point particle energy is above C squared because it is mass in motion and energy is infinitely dense because it occupies an infinitely small point in space.
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Igor - 24 Nov 2008 00:28 GMT > > Imaginary energy? > > Please show the energy? iE. But only in Minkowski coordinates.
> What is it made of?
> How do I measure it? You must have missed that first day of physics class when they defined energy as the capacity to do work.
Rob Dekker - 03 Dec 2008 02:19 GMT > "gabydewilde" <fototour@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9e089a13-cd22-44d2-bfe1-dae51556c096@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > Energy tries to describe events that didn't take place jet. Not sure why you say this, because energy does not describe events (past or future).
In Feynmann's words :
"It is not a description of a mechanism, or anything concrete; it is just a strange fact that we can calculate some number and when we finish watching nature go through her tricks and calculate the number again, it is the same."
> When the event does take place the energy goes some place else. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The predicted event doesn't have to take place so the potential future > is mis-predicted. It seems that you talk about 'potential' energy as some number that may never be 'realized'. But that's completely beside the point of what 'potential' energy really means. The two marbles have equal potential energy, simply because they is a force on them.
Whether or not that force actually results in velocity in the future (and thus would convert potential energy to kinetic energy) is immaterial. The potential energy is there regardless of the presence of holes underneith. There may not be anything under the marbles, or there may be a solid table without holes. There is no 'predicting' or anything like that.
> The word Energy tries to describe motion, gravity, electricity, > pressures and what not? It does not. What is DOES do is to describe RELATIONSHIPS between motion and gravity or electric field and charges or temperature and pressures etc. That's why energy is such a handy concept in physics.
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