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How does the photon's Electric Field generate electricity?

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guskz@hotmail.com - 27 Jun 2007 18:56 GMT
I presume that when a proton or electron absorb photons they get more
excited (does this mean they oscillate more?) and they move away from
each other by a distance(or r^2 distance?) equal to the excitation
(this way a dead battery gets charged from solar transistors)?

How does a negative charge dissacociate from positive charge (when
recharging a battery) when the electron being excited (solar
transistor) is perhaps 10 feet away along the copper wire?

So you have an excitation in the middle of a long wire that tells the
entire series of charges to reverse direction from the positive
terminal....how does this occur?
Igor - 27 Jun 2007 20:14 GMT
On Jun 27, 1:56 pm, "g...@hotmail.com" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I presume that when a proton or electron absorb photons they get more
> excited (does this mean they oscillate more?) and they move away from
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> entire series of charges to reverse direction from the positive
> terminal....how does this occur?

Electrical current will only be produced if the energy of the photon
(hf) exceeds the material's work function.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect
guskz@hotmail.com - 28 Jun 2007 15:34 GMT
> On Jun 27, 1:56 pm, "g...@hotmail.com" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect

I just read:"if the energy exceeds the gag band...so that it can jump
from the covalent band to the conduction band where the drift
electrons displace"
dlzc - 27 Jun 2007 20:23 GMT
Dear guskz:

On Jun 27, 10:56 am, "g...@hotmail.com" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I presume that when a proton or electron absorb
> photons they get more excited (does this mean
> they oscillate more?) and they move away from
> each other by a distance(or r^2 distance?) equal
> to the excitation (this way a dead battery gets
> charged from solar transistors)?

Atoms / molecules absorb photons, particles (such as free electrons
and free protons) scatter them.  Which did you mean?  Igor talked
about the photoelectric effect, where electrons are bound to molecular
structure.

> How does a negative charge dissacociate from
> positive charge (when recharging a battery)
> when the electron being excited (solar
> transistor) is perhaps 10 feet away along the
> copper wire?

The "dissociation" occurs by altering the ionization state of ions
inside the battery.

> So you have an excitation in the middle of
> a long wire that tells the entire series of
> charges to reverse direction from the positive
> terminal....how does this occur?

Electric potential.

David A. Smith
guskz@hotmail.com - 28 Jun 2007 15:51 GMT
> Dear guskz:
>
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> Electric potential.

I think no electric potential from an excited electron in a plain
copper wire would be created since:

I read solar cells use p/n transistors/diodes therefore I presume an
exicted charge needs to be "close" to the potential (potential
difference)? Meaning if the wire was only electron ions(electron
valences) in a plain copper wire then an excited electron, I "presume"
would simply re-emit the photon or escape the copper(photoelectric
effect)?

P/N transistor I think is like a battery where a "sufficiently"
exicted electron will generate sufficient energy to jump through the
barrier(semi-insulator)that seperates the "more" positvie terminal
from the negative terminal (or is it vice-versa)?

> David A. Smith
 
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