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Dubai plans 'moving' skyscraper

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Johnnie In The Billows - 25 Jun 2008 14:13 GMT
"The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
says.

"The Dynamic Tower design is made up of 80 pre-fabricated apartments
which will spin independently of one another. ..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7472722.stm

I knew I shouldn't have got up this morning.
++ - 25 Jun 2008 16:21 GMT
>"The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
>floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I knew I shouldn't have got up this morning.
>  

the vertigo challenged and mechanical engineer's nightmare
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 16:32 GMT
>> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
>> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> the vertigo challenged and mechanical engineer's nightmare

It's going to look like sh.t in 20 years when bits of it no longer work.

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 16:42 GMT
>http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
>Remote Viewing classes in London

Load of bollocks.
The US programme was abandoned because IT DOESN'T WORK.
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 16:44 GMT
>> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
>> Remote Viewing classes in London
>
> Load of bollocks.
> The US programme was abandoned because IT DOESN'T WORK.

Did they? Or did they merely out-source it?
There were two studies done by academics, coming to opposite conclusions.

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 16:52 GMT
>>> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
>>> Remote Viewing classes in London
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Did they? Or did they merely out-source it?
>There were two studies done by academics, coming to opposite conclusions.

If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 17:08 GMT
>>>> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
>>>> Remote Viewing classes in London
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?

Because it's pretty obvious he is not going to pay out on anything that
involves statistical proof.

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 17:13 GMT
>> If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?
>
>Because it's pretty obvious he is not going to pay out on anything that
>involves statistical proof.

Statistical proof?
You haven't any.

It's all mumbo-jumbo bollocks, along with all the other tripe on your (and
linked) website.
It's all makey-uppy bollocks with the intention of parting fools from their
money.
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 18:06 GMT
>>> If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?
>> Because it's pretty obvious he is not going to pay out on anything that
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It's all makey-uppy bollocks with the intention of parting fools from their
> money.

Well, I admire your True Faith!

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 18:13 GMT
>>>> If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?
>>> Because it's pretty obvious he is not going to pay out on anything that
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Well, I admire your True Faith!

Faith be f.cked.
Show me some evidence.

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 18:14 GMT
>>>>> If you think you can do it, why not apply for James Randi's million dollars?
>>>> Because it's pretty obvious he is not going to pay out on anything that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Faith be f.cked.
> Show me some evidence.

PEAR

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 18:59 GMT
>> Faith be f.cked.
>> Show me some evidence.
>
>PEAR

???
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 25 Jun 2008 19:08 GMT
>>> Faith be f.cked.
>>> Show me some evidence.
>> PEAR
>
> ???

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

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JAF - 25 Jun 2008 19:31 GMT
>>>> Faith be f.cked.
>>>> Show me some evidence.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

"Once again, there was reasonably good agreement among the six scoring
recipes, but the overall results were now completely indistinguishable from
chance."
(PEAR, p227, Distributive Scoring)

See, it's bollocks.
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Johnnie In The Billows - 30 Jun 2008 11:39 GMT
On Jun 25, 4:32 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> >> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> It's going to look like sh.t in 20 years when bits of it no longer work.

It's going to look like *FUN* in 20 years when it looks like a drunken
wedding cake when none of its bits work!!!!
gary@gjmaia.com - 25 Jun 2008 16:42 GMT
not really,.................I been to a bunch of revolving restaurants,
Seattle's Space Needle,............actually it is old technology,........

> the vertigo challenged and mechanical engineer's nightmare
Warm Worm - 27 Jun 2008 00:47 GMT
> >"The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> >floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> the vertigo challenged and mechanical engineer's nightmare

And maybe a dream for the Dale Farm Travelers. ;)
Pat - 25 Jun 2008 19:26 GMT
On Jun 25, 9:13 am, Johnnie In The Billows <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I knew I shouldn't have got up this morning.

Some people will do anything to hear "oh Honey... oh Honey... you were
so good it felt like the bed was moving ... I mean, it was like the
whole room was spinning".

My reaction to living there would be "man, it felt the the whole room
was spinning all night, then I woke up, looked out the window and
couldn't figure out where I was.
Warm Worm - 26 Jun 2008 22:50 GMT
> On Jun 25, 9:13 am, Johnnie In The Billows <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> was spinning all night, then I woke up, looked out the window and
> couldn't figure out where I was.

If you could adjust the spin-rate and make it constant, the walls
could be angled somewhat to allow for furniture.
RicodJour - 26 Jun 2008 23:06 GMT
> > My reaction to living there would be "man, it felt the the whole room
> > was spinning all night, then I woke up, looked out the window and
> > couldn't figure out where I was.
>
> If you could adjust the spin-rate and make it constant, the walls
> could be angled somewhat to allow for furniture.

If you could adjust the spin rate (no-hyphen) and angle the walls you
could have a fun house and ride motorcycles on the walls.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1502350904574754093

R
Warm Worm - 27 Jun 2008 00:42 GMT
> > > My reaction to living there would be "man, it felt the the whole room
> > > was spinning all night, then I woke up, looked out the window and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> If you could adjust the spin rate (no-hyphen) and angle the walls you
> could have a fun house and ride motorcycles on the walls.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1502350904574754093

Amazing what the brain can map out. I wonder what their practice/
training looks like.

Incidentally, we have the Cirque in town until July 20th.
I might photograph their tents (assuming they're their's):
http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/CirqueDuSoleil/en/showstickets/corteo
Warm Worm - 26 Jun 2008 03:55 GMT
On Jun 25, 6:13 am, Johnnie In The Billows <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7472722.stm

I've already thought of that, and this too:
Big URL:
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.architecture/tree/browse_frm/thread/06a66da133
2d8d78/b70d1a75355e2037?rnum=1&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.architecture%2Fbrowse_frm%2F
thread%2F6a66da1332d8d78%2F1359b7782df36570%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3D%26#doc_3ba75f79629
e0212

Tiny:
http://tinyurl.com/5bon5o

When you have buildings with spinning restos on the top, plus highrise
residents who want a change of scenery, it's inevitable that they'll
make all floors spin.
I'm surprised it hasn't been done sooner.

> I knew I shouldn't have got up this morning.

What's that supposed to mean?
By some of the newsgroups you posted to, though, I might be inclined
to agree. ;)
alt.fan.harry-potter? Hahaha very funny. ;)
gruhn - 26 Jun 2008 04:55 GMT
When they say "Dubai" do they mean "Dubai" or "somebody in Dubai"?
Lyle Francis Delp - 26 Jun 2008 12:39 GMT
> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
> says.

Can it jump out of the way when an airplane
comes its way?
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Pat - 26 Jun 2008 17:03 GMT
On Jun 25, 9:13 am, Johnnie In The Billows <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "The world's first moving building, a 80-storey tower with revolving
> floors giving an shifting shape, will be built in Dubai, its architect
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I knew I shouldn't have got up this morning.

One has to assume that all of the units are not perfectly balanced.  I
wonder what would happen if all of the heavy sides aligned and it
started spinning that way.  That would be a weird stress.
RicodJour - 26 Jun 2008 19:27 GMT
> One has to assume that all of the units are not perfectly balanced.  I
> wonder what would happen if all of the heavy sides aligned and it
> started spinning that way.  That would be a weird stress.

They may be hanging the entire floor - an updated Dymaxion.  The
biggest problem would be having a party and having all of that movable
weight meandering about, but it still wouldn't be much in relation to
the weight of the structure.

R
 
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