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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / April 2005Intelligent Design?
You need to be intelligent to see it!!! There is nothing else. > You need to be intelligent to see it!!! You only need a browser to see it: http://www.cse.msu.edu/~weinshan/Intelligent%20Design%20Debate%20WEINSHANK%203-1 9-02%20FOR%20POSTING%20ON%20WEB%20SITE/sld001.htm Sue... > There is nothing else. > You need to be intelligent to see it!!! [snip juvenile crap] Idiot. The emperor is bare-assed. Whatcha gonna do now that Hitler Youth Pope Benedict XVI is gonna put the screws to the halfling faggot god-on-a-stick? First on the list, Galileo goes back to Hell. Second, all Vatican telescopes are to be confiscated - including the particularly sinful one used by John-Paul II to do god knows what in league with the Devil. Ratzinger will be a doozy. Yer gonna spend all yer free time bein' bunged by Roman collars. Hush! Did Uncle Al hear a whisper of.. INQUISITION! Plans for the camps are already being drawn up. This time, no ovens (Greenhouse Effect). This time, giant chippers with the subsequent high protein slurry being cooked then fed to the destitute. Uncle Al already has a long list of sinners who will never be missed, and a hot resume for being appointed top lay management in a Facility. We all expect California Governor Schwarzenegger has kept up on his Austrian. Let us all sing, Sing, SING! http://www.anesi.com/east/horstw.htm <http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/sounds/horstw.ra> <http://natall.com/national-vanguard/assorted/callblood.html> Ya gotta love these guys for how much they have done with their room temperature IQs (worse in Europe - degrees Celsius). "We have replaced individuality with collective racial consciousness and the individual with the community." One expects Hillary Ramrod Clinton is inconsolable about somebody else having said it first. Doesn't it sound like Israeli kibbutzim? Perhaps Hitler Youth Pope Benedict XVI will say it again - and this time make it stick.  SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf > Idiot. The emperor is bare-assed. Whatcha gonna do now that Hitler > Youth Pope Benedict XVI is gonna put the screws to the halfling faggot > god-on-a-stick? Go easy on the guy. He never made a rank in the H.J. higher than unterstandartenfuehrer. I though it sounded rather odd then when Benny 16 appeared on the balcony the crowd yelled "Sieg Heil!". Bob Kolker > > Idiot. The emperor is bare-assed. Whatcha gonna do now that Hitler > > Youth Pope Benedict XVI is gonna put the screws to the halfling faggot [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > unterstandartenfuehrer. I though it sounded rather odd then when Benny > 16 appeared on the balcony the crowd yelled "Sieg Heil!". Benny-16 is 78 years old and undoubtedly listens for the click of heels as he passes. The cardinals are hoping for a firebrand to do the dirty work then crash and burn, followed by a fast turnover (natural causes or otherwise). Somebody in red silk has been reading the "Dune" trilogy - Baron Harkonnen sent in the whip of brutish Raban to tame Arrakis, then the carrot of is favored nephew Feyd to win the hearts of the people. It didn't quite work out as planned. Wheels within wheels... Home of the Medicis - blood where appropriate, money when necessary, power always. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf According to Al a very dense lump is the creator of the universe!!! It didn't start that way and I can prove it!!! > According to Al a very dense lump is the creator of the universe!!! > > It didn't start that way and I can prove it!!! Stfu. Nothing can be proven, but people can convince themselves. Richard Perry You don't have to prove what's true now do you? It is meant to be known. I can see it for myself jackass. > You don't have to prove what's true now do you? > It is meant to be known. > I can see it for myself jackass. So you've convinced yourself. I once convinced myself that I knew the words to Louie Louie. I still don't know wtf he was saying. So what if, hypothetically, there is a sentient creator, how the hell would you know that he gave a crap about what you did or thought. You would be to him like an amoeba is to us. He might be inclined to think "Who ordered *those*?" Nick, define morality for us, and then explain to us how your precepts are the mandate of god, and even better, how the hell he got them to you? What is it that you can see for yourself? Richard Perry > > You don't have to prove what's true now do you? > > It is meant to be known. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I once convinced myself that I knew the words to Louie Louie. I still > don't know wtf he was saying. > So what if, hypothetically, there is a sentient creator, how the hell > would you know that he gave a crap about what you did or thought. You > would be to him like an amoeba is to us. He might be inclined to think > "Who ordered *those*?" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Richard Perry morality = God as your conscience The laws on the book really belong on the heart. That is where they come from originally. You can have no conscience to convict you. That is why I am at war with you. I don't need anybody to tell me how to see. Ta.Ta. Te.He. > morality = God as your conscience > The laws on the book really belong on the heart. > That is where they come from originally. > > You can have no conscience to convict you. > That is why I am at war with you. What happened to forgiveness? > I don't need anybody to tell me how to see. Well, maybe not but I suspect you need people to tell you how to think. Dear RP: ... > So what if, hypothetically, there is a sentient creator, > how the hell would you know that he gave a crap > about what you did or thought. You would be to him > like an amoeba is to us. He might be inclined to think "Who > ordered *those*?" Have you ever read "Star Maker" by Olaf Stapledon? It is along the lines of what you wrote here... just curious. David A. Smith Just try playing him. That is how you can know he exists. They tortured Terri Schiavo RP. Now its your turn. > Just try playing him. > That is how you can know he exists. > > They tortured Terri Schiavo RP. > > Now its your turn. <PLONK> > Just try playing him. > That is how you can know he exists. > > They tortured Terri Schiavo RP. > > Now its your turn. This isn't a very "Christian" approach? Jesus was (supposedly) tortured and forgave all. I assume from your comments here you are an agent of the fallen one then? > Dear RP: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Have you ever read "Star Maker" by Olaf Stapledon? It is along > the lines of what you wrote here... just curious. Hmmm, sounds familiar. Hell I dunno:) I read literally a couple hundred books a year in my younger days, not counting those that I had to read. Of course the last statement above is attributed to a certain physics personality and referred to a certain particle that shouldn't have been there. I thought the analogy was fitting :) Richard Perry > You don't have to prove what's true now do you? > It is meant to be known. > I can see it for myself jackass. Anyone who is convinced that they cannot be surprised does not know God. Anyone who claims to understand all and that it is self-evident does not know God. PD > According to Al a very dense lump is the creator of the universe!!! > > It didn't start that way and I can prove it!!! So show the proof. O.K. That very dense lump of universal mass would by its own gravity be a black hole. The universe had to start as - a reverse - black hole. Space-time began massless. > You need to be intelligent to see it!!! > > There is nothing else. Now what are you babbling about? macromitch@internetCDS.com: >You need to be intelligent to see it!!! >There is nothing else. You're living proof against intelligent design. > macromitch@internetCDS.com: > >You need to be intelligent to see it!!! > >There is nothing else. > > You're living proof against intelligent design. I'll second that. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same" Dear Bilge: > macromitch@internetCDS.com: > >You need to be intelligent to see it!!! > >There is nothing else. > > You're living proof against intelligent design. A thought in support of intelligent design... Only a civil engineer would put a sewer line in a recreational area! David A. Smith > You need to be intelligent to see it!!! > > There is nothing else. You need only one counter-example to prove that a proposition is false. Intelligent Design? You ask the question. You are the answer. "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" Intelligent design is anti-god. For anything to have a design it is necessary for many to be involved. A single all powerful entity would need many to help him. How could he many and one at the same time? This is circular logic that leads back to the question where did god come from? He must come from something? Maybe he is being born now on this planet earth. Maybe we are god! In the beginning we would be too stupid to know we are god. We would go through a period of total ignorance praying to the future "we" that would become god. At the end we would know how to create the universe and that we must create it for us to become. Instead of pretending that you have all the answers and that you are right and we are wrong, why not wait until the truth is known. Why do you push so hard in blind ignorance? Someday the real answers will be here, until that time I shall spend all my energy in helping to find the truth through science. > "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" > > Intelligent design is anti-god. For anything to have a design it is > necessary for many to be involved. Boloney. There is only one God. > "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" > > Intelligent design is anti-god. For anything to have a design it is > necessary for many to be involved. A single all powerful entity would > need many to help him. That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful. The problem with creationalism is as was pointed out by Bertrand Russell, and probably many others before him, namely the non existence of a creator is more in line with cause and effect. Any explanation for how the creator came into existence can equally well be applied to what was supposedly created. Bill How could he many and one at the same time? This > is circular logic that leads back to the question where did god come > from? He must come from something? Maybe he is being born now on this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > will be here, until that time I shall spend all my energy in helping to > find the truth through science. > > "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bill Boloney Bill. He's the Uncreated Creator. > How could he many and one at the same time? This > > is circular logic that leads back to the question where did god come [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > will be here, until that time I shall spend all my energy in helping to > > find the truth through science. > > > "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" > > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Boloney Bill. > He's the Uncreated Creator. Then of course you do not need a creator - the universe itself, or whatever it developed from, may be 'uncreated'. Do you really think you can see things guys like Bertrand Russell could not? Bill > > How could he many and one at the same time? This > > > is circular logic that leads back to the question where did god [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > helping to > > > find the truth through science. > > > > "You need to be intelligent to see it!!!" > > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Bill The universe is clearly created you moron. Russell saw it wrong. The Creator only is Uncreated. > > > How could he many and one at the same time? This > > > > is circular logic that leads back to the question where did god [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > helping to > > > > find the truth through science. "That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful." What good is power without intelligence. I think it is clear that what is happening here on earth that intelligence comes from many. What would a all powerful single entity know? one digit, one number, one time, one existence, and one place. Without another there would be nothing. Makes no logical sense! The size and complexity of the universe shows many is the way. Many worlds, many entities, many intelligent species and much diversity means the development of enough intelligence to create the universe by way of a induced big bang. After which it all begins again. Stars form, elements form, diversity, complex planets are born with evolutionary intelligent life. >"That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful." > >What good is power without intelligence. WHAT YOU GOT AGAINST BUSH HUH? > "That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful." > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > which it all begins again. Stars form, elements form, diversity, > complex planets are born with evolutionary intelligent life. There is only one intelligence behind the universe. You have to be intelligent to see it! There is only one intelligence behind the universe. God is the Supreme scientist Creator of science. But you have to be intelligent to see it. "That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful." What good is power without intelligence. I think it is clear that what is happening here on earth that intelligence comes from many. What would a all powerful single entity know? one digit, one number, one time, one existence, and one place. Without another there would be nothing. Makes no logical sense! The size and complexity of the universe shows many is the way. Many worlds, many entities, many intelligent species and much diversity means the development of enough intelligence to create the universe by way of a induced big bang. After which it all begins again. Stars form, elements form, diversity, complex planets are born with evolutionary intelligent life. "That does not apply if he/she/it was all powerful." What good is power without intelligence. I think it is clear that what is happening here on earth that intelligence comes from many. What would a all powerful single entity know? one digit, one number, one time, one existence, and one place. Without another there would be nothing. Makes no logical sense! The size and complexity of the universe shows many is the way. Many worlds, many entities, many intelligent species and much diversity means the development of enough intelligence to create the universe by way of a induced big bang. After which it all begins again. Stars form, elements form, diversity, complex planets are born with evolutionary intelligent life. |
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