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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / May 2005How Does Gravity Move Mass Without Resistance?
Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. It can move a potentially *infinite* mass. Though there will never be infinite mass this is the power of gravity. It can move the entire universe! Mitch -- Gravity is a Continuum -- nothing about physics. He seems to think he's in either a philosophy forum, or a creationist forum. Feynman talked about it. He called it the unknown mechanism of gravity. I know the mechanism. Its the 4th dimension. Its the other dimensions moving!!! So a force must have a resistance now o_O "Dan" <dan@daman.com.au> wrote in news:4289a14f$0$10306$afc38c87 @news.optusnet.com.au: > So a force must have a resistance now > > o_O "Resistance is futile!"  Signaturebz please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an infinite set. bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap Mass has no resistance to gravity. > Mass has no resistance to gravity. Sure it does. Its called inertia. We'll wait here while you run and look up the word. | Mass has no resistance to gravity. I agree as they are two point and its the difference between the points that has the resistence. -- Dr *** duration/distance/energy http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ Maybe updates. The turnips and leeks are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity can move all amounts of mass alike without resistance. It's as if falling objects are massless. Mitch -- Light Falls -- | Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity | can move all amounts of mass alike without | resistance. It's as if falling objects are massless. | | Mitch -- Light Falls -- I have not studied this point very well but you might find that the acceleration due to gravity is modified by both the mass and velocity of the mass being so accelerated. Not very noticeable accept in very large masses and velocities near c. -- Dr *** duration/distance/energy http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ Maybe updates. The turnips and leeks are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) > | Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity > | can move all amounts of mass alike without [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ > Maybe updates. The turnips and leeks are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) I believe that is the addition of velocities in freefall. But I do not think that the amount of mass will effect it. | > | Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity | > | can move all amounts of mass alike without [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] | I believe that is the addition of velocities in freefall. | But I do not think that the amount of mass will effect it. If m = E/c^2 has any truth in it then the mass of a body being accelerated would increase until it was greater than the larger body that it was being accelerated by. Then if they did not impact the smaller body with the greater velocity would start accelerating the larger body until >(E/c^2 * v ) > <(E/c^2 * v) then if <(E/c^2) had gained an orbit about >(E/c^2 * v ) the systems moves of at the velocity of >(E/c^2 * v ) with <(E/c^2 * v) oscillating about it in an elliptical orbit otherwise they just go in maths... BANG.{:-). -- Dr *** duration/distance/energy http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ Maybe updates. The turnips and leeks are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) > | > | Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity > | > | can move all amounts of mass alike without [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ > Maybe updates. The turnips and leeks are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) Illucid. snip | Illucid. Try elusive or elucidate {:-) -- Dr *** Vacuum Energy = 4 pi duration*length ^2 http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/ Maybe updates. The spuds, beans and onions are coming up nicely. Ooh ah.{:-) [snip crap] f.cking imbecile. Push a car in neutral on level ground. Do you feel any resistance? When you get it rolling, try to stop it. Do you feel any resistance? Hey stooopid - that is orthogonal to any attempt to lift the car. Ineducable idiot. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf > Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity > can move all amounts of mass alike without > resistance. It's as if falling objects are massless. f.cking imbecile. What is the end velocity of a massless object subjected to one second of 1 m/sec^2 acceleration? Idiot. "Weightless" is not "massless." Jackass. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf >Mass would resist any propulsion. But gravity >can move all amounts of mass alike without >resistance. It's as if falling objects are massless. > >Mitch -- Light Falls -- What grade are you in? Fourth? Take some more scienc classes, and after you inih Middle SChool hopefully you will ralize how wrong this statement is. Gravitation can move a potentially infinite mass. Freefall moves all masses alike. I know there is no such thing as an infinite mass or physical quantity. Still gravity is cosmological. It moves the entire universe. >Nick May 26, 6:54 pm show options >Gravitation can move a potentially infinite mass. >Freefall moves all masses alike. >I know there is no such thing as an infinite mass or physical quantity. >Still gravity is cosmological. It moves the entire universe. infinite mass cant move becus the frictions and viscosity You have missed my point. There is no such thing. But theoretically gravity can move an arbitrarily large mass - in a vacuum(no source of friction!) I believe this is the real power of gravity. Freefall has no trouble moving all masses alike no matter how large. But how? > Gravitation can move a potentially infinite mass. > Freefall moves all masses alike. > > I know there is no such thing as an infinite mass or physical quantity. > Still gravity is cosmological. It moves the entire universe. No. Gravity is the weakest force in the universe. When you stand up, your legs are strong enough to hold up a column of air 35 miles long, the weight of your body and your clothes - all are being pulled down by the mass of the Earth. Going back to your first point, there is no mathematical basis for what you say. Does the gravity from your body mean pencils move towards you? No. This is because, the weakness of gravity means that to move even the smallest (mass) objects significantly the gravitational source must be much more massive. Freefall - what do you mean by this? My understanding of freefall involves people jumping out of planes.... All forces are cosmological. Gravity moves the universe because there is so many objects (with mass) in it. >> Gravitation can move a potentially infinite mass. >> Freefall moves all masses alike. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >your body and your clothes - all are being pulled down by the mass of the >Earth. I hope you don't actually believe that. A 35 mile long column of air with the cross section of your body would weigh around one tonne. Pretty good legs, eh? >Going back to your first point, there is no mathematical basis for what you >say. Does the gravity from your body mean pencils move towards you? No. This [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Freefall - what do you mean by this? My understanding of freefall involves >people jumping out of planes.... On the moon maybe. >All forces are cosmological. Gravity moves the universe because there is so >many objects (with mass) in it. You are very confused. Seek help. HW. www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Sometimes I feel like a complete failure. The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong. > So a force must have a resistance now Well, sorta yeah. But the guys assertion is a bit silly. Intertia is the "resistence". You cannot apply a force in the absence of an equal and opposite reaction. You can't apply a force to a massless object. >Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. >It can move a potentially *infinite* mass. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Mitch > -- Gravity is a Continuum -- Without resistance? The acceleration isn't infinite. Barring friction, the acceleration between Klassixx's penis and your sister's pussy would be quite small. Signature"We don't grow up hearing stories around the camp fire anymore about cultural figures. Instead we get them from books, TV or movies, so the characters that today provide us a common language are corporate creatures" -- Rebecca Tushnet so the forces are not quite equal and in oposite directions? > Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. [snip crap] No, you f.cking imbecile. If "gravity moved any size mass without resistance" its acceleration would be infinite. Boring idiot. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf > > Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. > [snip crap] [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Boring idiot. You are the boloney packer here Al. Freefalls acceleration fits the bill. It is potentially infinite. Moron. > -- > Uncle Al > http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) > http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf > > > Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. > > [snip crap] [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Freefalls acceleration fits the bill. > It is potentially infinite. f.cking imbecile. Tell us how an object can fall to exceed lightspeed. SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf Moron. if infinite acceleration it would reach *lightspeed* only! Nick: >Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. Gravity uses Mobil 1 and changes filters every 10,000 miles. "Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. It can move a potentially *infinite* mass." Wrong again fool: inertia. This has been know for centuries. Your physics is still in the dark ages. Wrong. That's backward. Inertia is only another way of saying resistance. That doesn't answer the question of how gravity moves mass without resistance. You're a moron QM. > Wrong. That's backward. > Inertia is only another way of saying resistance. That doesn't answer > the question of how > gravity moves mass without resistance. > > You're a moron QM. "Resistance Without Resistance for the morons" http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Resistance.html Dirk Vdm I see you have cataloged my statement dirk. I don't mind. You can't degrade me. My post is brilliant. How does gravity move mass dirk? Any size mass? "How does gravity move mass dirk? Any size mass? " If you are the brightest the moral majority has to offer, I feel sorry for them. Please take a moment to ponder how fast would the acceleration be for movement without resistance? Instantly to the speed of light. We would die falling from 1/10 of an inch. Or is there no such thing as kinetic energy in this fairy tale you have constructed? Motion is finite. It doesn't take an infinite force to move anything less than the speed of light. There is no weight in freefall. There is no mass resistance. Gravity moves all masses alike. It can move a potentially infinite mass. I know there is no such thing as an infinite mass. Still gravity moves the entire universe. > Gravity can move any size mass without resistance. <snip> Visualize a rotating tensionless balloon full of flexible hollow spheres which can expand or contract (They are in a weightless enviroment, devoid of any other influences) the sphere's are unaffected by this rotation. Then add random amounts an imaginary material inside each sphere moving in random directions and speeds. (which has the effect of shinking the size of each sphere the more material it contains and the faster the material is moving. The material is also attracted to the surface of the balloon because of the rotation) Some sphere's will shrink more than others they will distort and rearrange themselves. The balloons shape will adjust to the shape of the sphere's . Now visualize the imaginary material is mass, the flexible sphere's are just notional divisions of spacetime and the balloon is the universe. This is in my opinion an overly simplified description of the mechanism called gravity. Spud |
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