Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
Biology
BiologyBotanyMicrobiologyEntomologyEvolutionPaleontology
Chemistry
General ChemistryAnalytical ChemistryElectrochemistryOrganic Synthesis
Earth Science
GeologyMineralogyOceanographyMeteorologyEarthquakes
Physics
General PhysicsResearchRelativityParticle PhysicsElectromagnetismFusionOpticsAcousticsNew Theories

Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / May 2005



Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

the basic of matter

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Los Coxones - 24 May 2005 20:11 GMT
what is the very basic property of matter that makes it able to
organizes in complex stuctures, in daglig language called for "life"

why would matter looks and try to understand itself?

are atoms alive?
Dirk Van de moortel - 24 May 2005 20:29 GMT
> what is the very basic property of matter that makes it able to
> organizes in complex stuctures, in daglig language called for "life"
>
> why would matter looks and try to understand itself?

Because if it wouldn't, you wouldn't be here to ask that
question. This is an example of the Coxonic Principle.

Dirk Vdm

> are atoms alive?
La velocidad de la Luz - 24 May 2005 20:34 GMT
>Because if it wouldn't, you wouldn't be here to ask that
>question. This is an example of the Coxonic Principle.

was it an attempting to answer the question?

the question is as simple as it can be, what is that property of atom
(or whatever) that makes it able to organize in complex forms
Dirk Van de moortel - 24 May 2005 20:39 GMT
> >Because if it wouldn't, you wouldn't be here to ask that
> >question. This is an example of the Coxonic Principle.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the question is as simple as it can be, what is that property of atom
> (or whatever) that makes it able to organize in complex forms

The urge to produce you, in order to have something around
that asks that question. This is another example of the Coxonic
Principle.

Dirk Vdm
La velocidad de la Luz - 24 May 2005 20:46 GMT
>The urge to produce you, in order to have something around
>that asks that question. This is another example of the >Coxonic
Principle.

then let me to reformulate the question

why would matter looks and try to understand itself?

are atoms alive?
Dirk Van de moortel - 24 May 2005 20:48 GMT
> >The urge to produce you, in order to have something around
> >that asks that question. This is another example of the >Coxonic
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> are atoms alive?

==>
  http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/d68e46304a6b727a

Dirk Vdm
La velocidad de la Luz - 24 May 2005 21:00 GMT
> ==>
>   http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/d68e46304...

>Dirk Vdm

I understand now

then the atoms must communicate with each other and work together,
non-local , in order to acieve such a thing

how are spatial dispersed atoms communicate with each other
non-local,what do you know about non-local communication
Bill Hobba - 24 May 2005 23:45 GMT
> > ==>

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/d68e46304...

> >Dirk Vdm
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how are spatial dispersed atoms communicate with each other
> non-local,what do you know about non-local communication

If by non local communication you mean communication FTL then I would say
about the same as anyone else since it has never been demonstrated.  Indeed
fundamental considerations from casualty cast serious doubt on its
viability.

Bill
La velocidad de la Luz - 25 May 2005 18:39 GMT
>If by non local communication you mean communication FTL then I would say
>about the same as anyone else since it has never been demonstrated.  Indeed
>fundamental considerations from casualty cast serious doubt on its
>viability.

>Bill

i dont know if it is faster then light or not, only that is a kind of
communication, a link if you wish, at another level

but this is advanced mathematics far beyound your level bill, so why
bother
Bill Hobba - 25 May 2005 23:31 GMT
> >If by non local communication you mean communication FTL then I would say
> >about the same as anyone else since it has never been demonstrated.  Indeed
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> but this is advanced mathematics far beyound your level bill, so why
> bother

It may be beyond my level but it is doubtful it is beyond some of the PhD's
regularly post here - so how about the detail - or are you all hot air?

Bill
η ταχύτητα του φωτός - 26 May 2005 16:43 GMT
>It may be beyond my level but it is doubtful it is beyond some of the PhD's
>regularly post here - so how about the detail - or are you all hot air?

you dont have a phd,  or a master or somthin else, but yuo have yuor
arithemtics, we know

a non-local communication dont need to respect the laws of physics (the
known ones), heres the name "non-local", not to be confused with
dimenssions, but yuo are a moron understanding sh.t anyway
Bill Hobba - 26 May 2005 23:30 GMT
> >It may be beyond my level but it is doubtful it is beyond some of the PhD's
> >regularly post here - so how about the detail - or are you all hot air?
>
> you dont have a phd,  or a master or somthin else, but yuo have yuor
> arithemtics, we know

I know a something else I do have and you do not.  Consideration for the
purpose of this group.

> a non-local communication dont need to respect the laws of physics (the
> known ones), heres the name "non-local", not to be confused with
> dimenssions, but yuo are a moron understanding sh.t anyway

Did not post any math?  I wonder why that does not surprise me.

Bill
η ταχύτητα του φωτός - 26 May 2005 23:37 GMT
>Did not post any math?  I wonder why that does not surprise me.

>Bill

you mean arithmetics?
Bill Hobba - 27 May 2005 04:42 GMT
> >Did not post any math?  I wonder why that does not surprise me.
>
> >Bill
>
> you mean arithmetics?

I meant what I said.

Bill
Bilge - 25 May 2005 01:01 GMT
Los Coxones:
>what is the very basic property of matter that makes it able to
>organizes in complex stuctures, in daglig language called for "life"

 First, you'll have to provide a definition of ``life.''

>why would matter looks and try to understand itself?

 That's harder. You'll need to provide a definition of ``consciousness.''

>are atoms alive?

 Not according to any definition of ``alive'' which would make it useful
to distinguish between alive and not alive.
La velocidad de la Luz - 25 May 2005 18:43 GMT
>First, you'll have to provide a definition of ``life.''

i dont know

> >why would matter looks and try to understand itself?

>  That's harder. You'll need to provide a definition of ``consciousness.''

you are right
a definition to unconsciousness could be good as well

> >are atoms alive?

>  Not according to any definition of ``alive'' which would make it useful
>to distinguish between alive and not alive.

what do i know, you ae the smartest guy in the kichen
Bill Hobba - 25 May 2005 23:36 GMT
> >First, you'll have to provide a definition of ``life.''
>
> i dont know

You use a word and you do not know the sense you mean it?

> > >why would matter looks and try to understand itself?
>
> >  That's harder. You'll need to provide a definition of ``consciousness.''
>
> you are right
> a definition to unconsciousness could be good as well

Then sort out what you mean by words before you post in future.

> > >are atoms alive?
>
> >  Not according to any definition of ``alive'' which would make it useful
> >to distinguish between alive and not alive.
>
> what do i know, you ae the smartest guy in the kichen

Then try a little bit of self improvement - only post messages using words
you know the meaning and context of.

Bill
η ταχύτητα του φωτός - 26 May 2005 16:38 GMT
>Then try a little bit of self improvement - only post messages using words
>you know the meaning and context of.

now tell us what those words means, sweet suzzy, becus we are fools
with no education of anykind, tell us, what does your arithmetics
saying?
Bill Hobba - 26 May 2005 23:34 GMT
> >Then try a little bit of self improvement - only post messages using words
> >you know the meaning and context of.
>
> now tell us what those words means, sweet suzzy, becus we are fools
> with no education of anykind, tell us, what does your arithmetics
> saying?

You are the one that posted them.  You should know what you mean by them.
If not only post once you are certain of meaning and context.  But
considering all the other dyslexic troll tripe you have posted under the
other names you use I doubt anything I say will stop you.

Bill
η ταχύτητα του φωτός - 26 May 2005 23:44 GMT
>You are the one that posted them.  You should know what you mean by them.
>If not only post once you are certain of meaning and context.  But
>considering all the other dyslexic troll tripe you have posted under the
>other names you use I doubt anything I say will stop you.

stopping me what?

i like you bill, sorry, i just do it against you becus you are so easy,
Bill Hobba - 27 May 2005 04:45 GMT
> >You are the one that posted them.  You should know what you mean by them.
> >If not only post once you are certain of meaning and context.  But
> >considering all the other dyslexic troll tripe you have posted under the
> >other names you use I doubt anything I say will stop you.
>
> stopping me what?

Posting the dyslexic troll tripe you do under multiple names.

> i like you bill, sorry, i just do it against you becus you are so easy,

It would be easier on all concerned to stick to the purpose of the group
rather than what gives you jollies.

Bill
a flok of seagules - 30 May 2005 14:16 GMT
>Posting the dyslexic troll tripe you do under multiple names.

only morons publish their real name on usenet,  hahahah
what a moron, are you afraid making a right stament and not getting the
credits for it? hahaha, jerk

you and dirk are the only morons around here, isnt it abvious?

>> i like you bill, sorry, i just do it against you becus you are so easy,

>It would be easier on all concerned to stick to the purpose of the group
>rather than what gives you jollies.

>Bill

you fockin uneducated troll moron, pretending to understand maxwell
knowing nothing about vetorfield operations etc, dare to dictate
bullshit to other people?

you are focking stoopid wo knowing it bill

take a look at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/884
0404bc7db1be6/2ffab55b7f2dfe5b?q=maxwell+bill+vector+field&rnum=2&hl=en#2ffab55b
7f2dfe5b

Nick - 27 May 2005 01:39 GMT
How does matter transform from one form
into another?
Physics is about pure order.
What is the source of the pure order?
God of course. Order requires and orderer.
God the Supreme Scientist created science.

How do we grasp this pure orded?
By the aether.

Mitch  - Time moves forward in every direction -
Bilge - 30 May 2005 16:04 GMT
Nick:
>How does matter transform from one form
>into another?

 If it's soft enough, you can just shape it with your hands,
although liquids tend to not hold their shape too long.
For something like marble, you'll need to obtain a good chisel
and strike the end of the chisel with your head. I'd suggest
searching google for tungsten chisels, if you expect it to
last.

>Physics is about pure order.
>What is the source of the pure order?

 If that were true, those of us who are physicists could order
you to shut up and go cliff diving in the grand cabyon. Since
you don't appear to be headed for the grand canyon, you've
disproven your assertion. Q.E.D.

>God of course. Order requires and orderer.

 Thanks, but I can't take all the credit. I got some input
at an atheists convention.

>God the Supreme Scientist created science.

 Not only that, I created it so that you would forever be
baffled by it.

>How do we grasp this pure orded?

 When I receive a report that you've gone cliff diving in the grand
canyon, I'll know you've grasped it.

>By the aether.

 Sorry, I just sold the last one. You'll have to wait until
tomorrow to buy one.

>Mitch  - Time moves forward in every direction -

 That's just you devolving.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.