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Is Action fun ??(kst)

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Ken S. Tucker - 16 Jul 2005 10:39 GMT
ACTION....take 1

Hey kids, do you want to have fun with relativity?

{{yeah we do...yea!!}}

Well ok then, Ken is in his secret laboratory with
a big bag of marbles, all of which weigh the same,
about 10 grams.

Ken's bored so he's tossing a marble into a bucket
everytime the clock ticks, 1 a second.

His friend Fast Freddi happens to be passing Ken's
lab at Fast Freddi speed, more than 86% speed of
the speed of light.

{{wow, yea for Fast Freddi}}

Freddi tells Ken that Ken's  tossing a marble every 2
seconds, but they weigh 20 grams each.
Well Ken and Freddi get in an arguement...:-(

{{booo}}

But then Ken and Freddi discover something called
ACTION.

They both agreed the

(mass of the marble) x (the rate the marbles are tossed)

is the same for both of them.

{{yea!!!}}

You see what happened was Ken was tossing a
marble every second, but Fast Freddi saw that
as a fat marble (a 20gm aget) tossed every 2 seconds.

Both now know that ACTION is the same for both
Ken and Fast Freddi, and everyone else.

So everyone in the universe sees Ken tossing marbles
into a bucket so that the

(mass of the marbles) x (rate of marbles tossed)

is the same for everyone in the universe!

{{yea!!}}

And that's called ACTION.

ET phoned home and it's true there to...

{{WOW}}...

Would anyone like to see how that's done in relativity?

{{No, I need to take a pee, Can I go home}}

Sit down ET...you need to learn geometry,
and General Relativity!

Mr. Planck went to a lotta trouble to explain his

h = 6.625 ergs * seconds = invariant ACTION units.

He thinks the rate of the marbles x their mass going
into the bucket Ken  and Freddi see is the same for
everybody, and called that Quantum Theory, just
because Ken used a unit marble.

Then some beatnik ahh, Einstein comes along
and agrees with Mr. Planck, and Einstein gets a
Nobel Prize for agreeing, so be agreeable.

{{Yea!  ...  hmm}}

Kids, wanna know how QT and GR work together?

{{Yes, is tomorrow to soon?}}

That's fine...
Ken S. Tucker
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 16 Jul 2005 12:23 GMT
That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.
Ken S. Tucker - 16 Jul 2005 20:21 GMT
> That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.

You're english aren't you, how did I know that :-)?

I'm hoping to get some examples of ACTION, that
clearly relates it's meaning.
TIA
Ken
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 21 Jul 2005 11:35 GMT
> > That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.
>
> You're english aren't you, how did I know that :-)?

Cuz ah warn't writing in CHINESE.

> I'm hoping to get some examples of ACTION, that
> clearly relates it's meaning.
> TIA
> Ken
Ken S. Tucker - 22 Jul 2005 04:43 GMT
> > > That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.
> >
> > You're english aren't you, how did I know that :-)?
>
> Cuz ah warn't writing in CHINESE.

I'm told inbreeding on a tiny little island
makes them go homo, hence you're english.
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 23 Jul 2005 10:15 GMT
> > > > That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.
> > >
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> I'm told inbreeding on a tiny little island
> makes them go homo, hence you're english.

What has that to do with me, Old Fruit?
Sue... - 23 Jul 2005 12:31 GMT
What made you think he was talking aboot you? Eh?
Don't you know how to read CANADIAN?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_English

:o)
Sue...
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 28 Jul 2005 11:29 GMT
> What made you think he was talking aboot you? Eh?
> Don't you know how to read CANADIAN?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> :o)
> Sue...

I don't even know how to read GRANADIAN.

Like your big red nose, BTW!
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) - 16 Jul 2005 23:14 GMT
Dear Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel:

> That's OK.  Homosexuality is no longer a criminal offence.

There are still laws on the books in various states/countries
against it.

And it is still a "sin"... whatever that means.  Considering that
birth is sin... (in the same book)

David A. Smith
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 28 Jul 2005 11:32 GMT
Well, I've really QUEERED Ken's original QUERY!   :-O
Ken S. Tucker - 28 Jul 2005 16:37 GMT
> Well, I've really QUEERED Ken's original QUERY!   :-O

No problem, we're all here to share expertise,
so tell us what color is black guys sperm,
something you'd know.
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel - 30 Jul 2005 11:30 GMT
> > Well, I've really QUEERED Ken's original QUERY!   :-O
>
> No problem, we're all here to share expertise,
> so tell us what color is black guys sperm,
> something you'd know.

This depends on the relativistic Doppler effect, determined by the rate
of w.nking.  If the action is rapid enough, a black hole may be created
-- thus resonating with the gentleman's skin colour.
Ken S. Tucker - 31 Jul 2005 00:29 GMT
> > > Well, I've really QUEERED Ken's original QUERY!   :-O
> >
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> of w.nking.  If the action is rapid enough, a black hole may be created
> -- thus resonating with the gentleman's skin colour.

I like you, you remind me of bilge.
I'd like to make you an honary fan of the
Ken S. Tucker fan club, butt you'll need
to start at the bottom, I figure you can
do that, more than willingly, and bilge
(the janitor) wants to be the mascot.

Bilged e-mails me frequently and begs
to be my mascot.
Yuck, probably has AIDS.
Ken
Ken S. Tucker - 30 Jul 2005 08:58 GMT
> ACTION....take 1
>
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> That's fine...
> Ken S. Tucker

OK, more about Action, by defintion,

Action = Work x Time.

or

Work = Action/Time.

Scenario:  Ken & Lynne are unionized carpenters
who agree that every hammer hit on a 3" nail
drives it 1" into the standard spruce beam,
and further agree that only that hit will be
used by union rules, hit = h.

Ken works twice as hard as Lynne, he hits
twice for every one of Lynne's hits.

The big boss comes over and and noticed the
frequency of Ken's hits, is twice Lynne's and
decides to pay Ken at twice the rate of Lynne,
using the formula,

Work = hits per minute.

= hits x frequency.

Work being energy, the boss decides,

E = h*f  == hit * frequency.

But the boss being a regular guy, with a stop
watch, decides at least two hits are needed
to establish the rate and frequency of hits.

Lynne hits at t=0 and then t=2.

Ken hits at t=0 and then t=1.

K(frequency)  = 2*Lynne(f),

where a minimum of two hits are required
to establish frequency.

Regards
Ken S. Tucker
Bilge - 30 Jul 2005 18:38 GMT
Ken S. Tucker:

>Scenario:  Ken & Lynne are unionized carpenters
>who agree that every hammer hit on a 3" nail
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>decides to pay Ken at twice the rate of Lynne,
>using the formula,

 Why would you get paid extra for hitting your thumb twice
as often as lynne hits a nail?



>Work = hits per minute.
>
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>Regards
>Ken S. Tucker
 
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