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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / August 2005time dilation
the pion is a particle that can be created in a high-energy particle accelerator. it is a very unstable particle; pions created at rest are observed to decay (to other particles) with an average lifetime of only 26.0 ns [26.0E(-9)]. in one particular experiment, pions were created in motion at a speed of v = 0.913c (where c is the speed of light, 3.00E8 m/s). in this case they were observed to travel in the laboratory an average distance of D = 17.4 m before decaying, from which they decay in a time given by D/v = 63.7 ns. this effect, called time dilation, suggest that something about the relative motion between the pion and the laboratory has stretched the measured time interval by a factor of about 2.5. this experiment reveals the limitations of classical physics and serve as a test of einstein's special theory of relativity > the pion is a particle that can be created in a high-energy particle > accelerator. it is a very unstable particle; pions created at rest are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > limitations of classical physics and serve as a test of einstein's special > theory of relativity "Francisco", I understand what you are trying to say, and you are absolutely right. But for many of these people relativity is a religion, and you cannot change their mind with any scientific argument. In my theory I say it like this: http://www.wakkanet.fi/~fields/ paragraph A11 A11 In relativity theory, time has been made a varying quantity like weight and distance. This assumption is still unsupported by any research result. Relativity theory's most enthusiastic supporters believe that there should be a mass of evidence - but there is none. There are only misunderstandings of how an atomic clock operates (the effect of acceleration), and misunderstandings of what objective research demands. In many cases, attempts have been made to use the theory to prove itself. Henry Haapalainen > "Francisco", I understand what you are trying to say, and you are absolutely > right. But for many of these people relativity is a religion, and you cannot > change their mind with any scientific argument. Where people get this stoopid idea I'll never know. Get real, please. Relativity is simply a theory derived from certain postulates. End of story, no religion. It's OK to object to those postulates on philosophical grounds, as I do for example. It is also true that this theory has an excellent experimental and predictive quantitative track record. In other words: it's fine to object against relativity (or any other theory) *honestly*. What is dishonest is calling relativity "religion" just because someone defends the way it's derived from the postulates. -- Jan Bielawski | > "Francisco", I understand what you are trying to say, and you are absolutely | > right. But for many of these people relativity is a religion, and you cannot | > change their mind with any scientific argument. | | Where people get this stoopid idea I'll never know. Get real, please. | Relativity is simply a theory derived from certain postulates. Bollocks. It's based on a stoopid definition of time. End of | story, no religion. Of course it's a religion, dumbfuck. You BELIEVE Einstein's definition of time on FAITH, it's not science, it's religion. |It's OK to object to those postulates on | philosophical grounds, as I do for example. It is also true that this | theory has an excellent experimental and predictive quantitative track | record. Irrelevant bullshit, the function tau is not linear, the objection is on mathematical grounds. | In other words: it's fine to object against relativity (or any other | theory) *honestly*. So done. You are dishonest in denying your FAITH is a religion. | What is dishonest is calling relativity "religion" | just because someone defends the way it's derived from the postulates. Bullshit, it is derived from [quote] we establish by definition that the "time" required by light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A. [end quote] Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ and your BLIND FAITH in that is a religion. Androcles. | -- | Jan Bielawski thanks, henry. i am new in this newsgroup. i have also been a relativity enthusiast. the reason i join this newsgroup is to discuss ideas about relativity, physics, and speculate on anything that might be relevant to physics. if i am wrong, it would be nice to receive constructive criticism from someone who really knows in order to understand. i will try to do the same. there is a well organized physics forum in http://www.physicsforums.com/ francisco >> the pion is a particle that can be created in a high-energy particle >> accelerator. it is a very unstable particle; pions created at rest are [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Henry Haapalainen Francisco, assuming the figures you note are correct, that does support SR's findings in the Twin Paradox experiment, that the rate of the passage of time is variable. The "stretching" of the time factor, as you put it, is indeed related to the speed differences between the pion and the lab. |
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