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Josef Matz - 30 Sep 2005 12:59 GMT
You now can show what your f.ck oeconomics can do against. Leave oil and gas
in the ground !!!!
30 cm increase of ocean level within next 5 years awaited.

Where shall the ice bears go ?

We plan a huge animal rescue program for ice bears, polar foxes and other
animals living in the most
endangered north pole region.

World Animal Rescue program. Help us.

Josef Matz
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Germany

The wrong theories wont help. Bring Bush to join Kyoto !

Joe
Tom Roberts - 30 Sep 2005 16:04 GMT
> 30 cm increase of ocean level within next 5 years awaited.

Nonsense. Such a rapid change is simply not possible.

> The wrong theories wont help. Bring Bush to join Kyoto !

Compare human contributions to greenhouse gasses to natural ones. Yes,
marginal increases can have large effects; still, controlling a small
contribution won't help if the large one fluctuates toward larger output.

Tom Roberts    tjroberts@lucent.com
Josef Matz - 30 Sep 2005 17:50 GMT
> > 30 cm increase of ocean level within next 5 years awaited.
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> Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com

Tom, there are other serious scientists which say that we have to switch our
lifestyle. A change is possible. There are possibilities. And these
scientists say: Use renewable energies.
See a simple hurricane what problems. If ocean level is 5 meters increased
you will have much more
problems. We also. Such a world must not allow for free markets in energy
supply. Beacause everybody needs a minimum of energy it must be planned and
strictly organized. There must come a law, that for each car produced
anywhere in the world there must be produced an equivalent energy source to
drive that car. This source must be renewable.
Its clear that this insight takes some times. But what if all chinese drive
cars without doing so together
with us ? All ressources of the world are used up for a short time and then
we are in the same
situation as now except that we have blown oil and gas into the atmosphere
for driving a few kilometers.
Scientists which do not see that and agree in that are in my opinion no
scientists. They are ignorants.

We are responsible. Its the paradise which will be lost. All our bibles tell
us and we are still blind.
Oeconomy and Oecology need not be in opposition with each other. But we have
to organize it.
Kyoto is the beginning for that process. We hope the US to join us once. We
also need you. Or the flood will come.

Joe
 
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