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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / November 2005Einstein's Zombies Undergo Conversion. Even Teach One Another.
Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch... > > > > "Igor" <thoovler@excite.com> wrote in message > > news:1132918168.696302.32040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > > > Albert Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 7: "There is hardly a simpler > > > > law in physics than that according to which light is propagated in > > > > empty space. Every child at school knows, or believes he knows, that > > > > this propagation takes place in straight lines with a velocity c=300000 > > > > km/s." > > > > > > > > Chapter 22: "...the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in > > > > vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the > > > > special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently > > > > referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of > > > > light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light > > > > varies with position. Now we might think that as a consequence of this, > > > > the special theory of relativity and with it the whole theory of > > > > relativity would be laid in the dust. BUT IN REALITY THIS IS NOT THE > > > > CASE." > > > > > > > > Pentcho Valev > > > > > > There once was a time when I didn't understand the difference between > > > speed and velocity either, just like you. But I overcame my ignorance > > > and became educated. It can do wonders for your outlook. It might be > > > worth your while Just a suggestion. > > > > Igor, funny enough you're mistaken, your new education is useless for > > correctly understanding old English publications. Maybe you were too much in > > newsgroups, and don't read enough publications, especially of that time > > period -- also just a suggestion. Or learn German -- just another > > suggestion. In any case, Einstein's Geschwindigkeit in the above text means > > "speed" in the jargon of this newsgroup. And if you knew to which > > calculation Einstein referred in the above text, you would already know > > that. > > > > Harald > > As far as I have verified, whenever the word "Geschwindigkeit" > appears in the original article, he is talking about the speed (or > in a few cases the closing speed, when > The only place where he is talking about the vector, he calls > it "Geschwindigkeitsvektor". > > And besides that, your remark is entirely irrelevant and off > the mark. You seem to have a problem reading what people > (and that even includes yourself) write. > Agenda? > > Dirk Vdm Pentcho Valev > Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch... [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Pentcho Valev Pentcho Valev does not know the differences between - a reply and a copy, - speed and velocity, - kneeling down and bending over, - local and global, - a sycophant in English and in French, - massive and massless particles, - a real poncho and a Sears poncho, - implication and equivalence, - inertial and non-inertial, - group velocity and phase velocity, - science and religion Dirk Vdm > Dirk Van de moortel wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Pentcho Valev The zombies are dying off like flies, Pentcho. I've swatted Bielawski, Blind Poe, McCullough, Phuckwit Duck, Auntie Alice Schwartz. John Kennaugh is currently swatting Roberts, Baez continues to buzz around occasionally but won't take a challenge, Dork Van de merde has NEVER taken a challenge but it's good to see it infighting. 'Enri Wilson takes on buzz, Goose and the tusselad, pretty soon there will only be aether zombies left. I'll leave the little ones to you. Good zombie hunting! Androcles. Androcles wrote: > > "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote > > > > Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > >> "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch... "Igor" <thoovler@excite.com> wrote in message > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > >> > > > Albert Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 7: "There is hardly > >> > > > a simpler law in physics than that according to which light > >> > > > is propagated in empty space. -=- CLEARLY, FiRST & FOREMOST, EinsteiN's ((focus)) is *PARTiCLE COUNT*.!! > >> > > > -=- Every child at school knows, or believes he knows, that > >> > > > this propagation takes place in straight lines with a > >> > > > velocity c=300000 km/s." > >> > > > > >> > > > Chapter 22: "...the law of the constancy of the velocity of > >> > > > light in vacuo, -=- CLEARLY, here AGAiN ..EinsteiN's ((focus)) is on *PARTiCLE COUNT*.!! LiGHT VELOCiTY has "constancy" per *CONSTANT particle COUNT* ONLY.!! LiGHT velocity v VARiEs ..inversely, WiTH the path-PARTiCLE-COUNT.!! o o o o o o o vector o o o PROjECTiON A--------VELOCiTY vector v-->B - - - - - -> C o o o o o o o o ..ANY actual PATH o GUESS *SPEED* is CLEARLY (..ANY actual PATH) / DURATiON.!! VELOCiTY = (Any measured or imagined VECTOR) / DURATiON.!! CLEARLY ..POSiTiON B is an ARBiTRARY point, ON the PATH.!! Any OTHER two POiNTs on *SAME path*, a DiFFERENT VECTOR.!! LiGHT velocity c is, NOW, a MATHEMATiCAL constant ..just as is pi.!! > >> > > > -=- which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions > >> > > > in the special theory of relativity and to which we have > >> > > > already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited > >> > > > validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place > >> > > > when -=- ..a BENT light RAY is an *accelerated* light RAY .. > >> > > > -=- the velocity of propagation of light varies with > >> > > > position. -=- brian a m stuckless >><> >><> >><> >><> >><> > >> > > > -=- Now we might think that as a consequence of this, > >> > > > the special theory of relativity and with it the whole theory [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > I'll leave the little ones to you. Good zombie hunting! > Androcles. Re: Einstein's Zombies Undergo Conversion. Even Teach One Another. >The zombies are dying off like flies, Pentcho. >I've swatted Bielawski, Blind Poe, McCullough, Phuckwit Duck, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Dork Van de merde has NEVER taken a challenge but it's good >to see it infighting. I was here long before you showed up, and I'll be here long after you're gone. The way to beat a fool is not to take a challenge from him: just let him tire himself out. You think you're winning arguments, but you're just annoying people enough to make them ignore you. >>The zombies are dying off like flies, Pentcho. >>I've swatted Bielawski, Blind Poe, McCullough, Phuckwit Duck, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I was here long before you showed up, and I'll be here long > after you're gone. Agreed on both points. You are younger than I. > The way to beat a fool is not to take a > challenge from him: just let him tire himself out. You'll not tire ME out, fool. I'll drop dead, but not because of you. You can't even count your own toes, 16 red arrows one side and 32 the other, and neither can Koks. > You > think you're winning arguments, but you're just annoying > people enough to make them ignore you. Winning an argument with you is so easy, you make a complete fool of yourself every time. The idiot Roberts claims to have OBSERVED the accretion disk near a black hole, but he can't supply the right ascension and declination, he's a liar like you and your web page with 16 red arrows one diagram and 32 the other. You have no answer, you are caught in a lie. If that annoys you , too bad. Ignorance is bliss, huh, Baez? Go on, run away. Androcles. There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. recycled old arguments and immature name-calling. **************** Isn't that the purpose of Usenet???????????????????? > There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments > and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. Ok. "In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity 2AB/(t'A-TA) = c to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." Please explain the experience and the assumption. Androcles. > There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments > and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. This NG should have been setup moderated. Too late now. At this point, it's like being back in a slummy highschool where people call each other 'faggot' just to look cool and show off their contempt for each other. > > There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments > > and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > other 'faggot' just to look cool and show off their contempt for each > other. It's self-policing. Androcles has bored everyone but himself by now and hardly anybody talks to him but other cranks. Eventually he'll either become sane or leave. Other foul-mouthed cranks have had much shorter durations. - Randy >> > There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments >> > and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Randy Stupid c.nt Blind Poe: Einstein: ½[tau(0,0,0,t)+tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v)+x'/(c+v))] = tau(x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v)) Reference: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ Proof Poe cannot read: "Where in that equation did (c+v) occur?" -- Poe the blind man. Neither can fuckwit CarbUncle Sch-wart-zit read either: Proof "Uncle Al" cannot read: "BTW, you f.ck-faced baboon, "(c+v) appears nowhere in the paper, nor could it. Hey Androcyst, you are an ineducable idiot. Your high school should be leveled and replaced by an abandoned bowling alley." --Schwartz the f.cking imbecile. Ya gotta love "nor could it". Still, at least we have absolute proof that nobody should take any notice whatsoever of these arseholes. One down, knocked out for the count. Bielawski: ran away. McCullough: ran away. Van de moortel: afraid to come out and fight. Blind Poe the crank is on the list. Eventually he'll either become sane or leave as the other cranks did. It's self-policing. Androcles, the cop since 1999, stronger than ever. > >> > There is no actual debate going on here, just recycled old arguments > >> > and immature name-calling. Talk physics, not trash. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > McCullough: ran away. > Van de moortel: afraid to come out and fight. Who would be stupid enough to have a fight with dog sh.t? Dirk Vdm > Blind Poe the crank is on the list. > Eventually he'll either become sane or leave as the other cranks did. > > It's self-policing. > Androcles, the cop since 1999, stronger than ever. > You'll not tire ME out, fool. I'll drop dead, but not because of you. Would you? That would be nice. Socks >> You'll not tire ME out, fool. I'll drop dead, but not because of you. > > Would you? That would be nice. > Socks Dying is not something any of us can help. You will too. That WILL be nice. But you won't tire me out, c.nt. Androcles. > > You'll not tire ME out, fool. I'll drop dead, but not because of you. > > Would you? That would be nice. > Socks Sometimes I think I'm a bad person for realising if Androcles rolled over and died, he would not be missed by anyone here. I for one miss Franz Heymann and just don't like it how the kind and useful are outlived by the bitter and useless. >> > You'll not tire ME out, fool. I'll drop dead, but not because of you. >> >> Would you? That would be nice. >> Socks [Eric] > Sometimes I think I'm a bad person for realising if Androcles rolled > over and died, he would not be missed by anyone here. I for one miss > Franz Heymann and just don't like it how the kind and useful are > outlived by the bitter and useless. [hanson] Androc has class and referred to himself. But you two do not. You, in your megalomenia, do vegetate in the nether lands of phony goody-2- shoe kacksackers who wish death unto others, nonchalantly, in your own very embittered fashion. There's no difference between you two Rel-religion fanatics, Islamo fascists and ersatz rabbi kolker. You have wished people dead who do not share your views. --- Eric, look closely at what you've said, you thinking of yourself as kind and useful: Eric, be careful what you wish for... ahahaha... ahahaha.. Guys, "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!... ahahahaha... aha Pentcho Valev is a documented crank in the Eur. J. Phys. And that's quite a rap list of fumbles http://www.google.com/search?q=Valev+fumble+site%3Ausers.pandora.be Pentcho Valev FAQ http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm |
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